Very few list website addresses

jgadvert · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:43 pm Post subject: Very few list website addresses

It always surprises me how few people list them in there signature areas.
Some that are supposedly seasoned pros that play tons of shows and never, ever any prompts to see the bands they play with.

They guys dish out tons of knowledge, advise blah blah blah... but never mention the specific groups they work with...ever.

If you are a free-lancer, certainly there are groups you "sit in" with that you might like to list a website for. Yeah, I suspect there are alot of phoney baloneys here on TH.

Anybody ever notice this? Don't you think that listing "something" might help folks have a little more confidence that what you are saying is correct? I don't buy in to the anonymity thing. These folks are staying anonymous for reasons...most of them not good.

trumpetgirl612 · Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:39 pm Post subject:

did it ever occur to you that not everyone needs to have a website???
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trumpetmike · Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:53 pm Post subject:

Just because you have a website doesn't mean you know what you are talking about.
Just because someone remains anonymous does not mean that they don't.

If the advice is good, does it matter who it comes from?

silverstar · Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:43 am Post subject:

What they said. ^^

Not everyone has a website.

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Pete · Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:24 am Post subject:

Does this make you feel better?

Pete has performed with The USAF Band, Jeff Holmes Big Band, The Amherst Jazz Orchestra, Yusef Lateef, Peter Erskine, John Fedchock, Chris Vadala, The Temptations, the O’Jays, Doc Severinson, Kenny Rogers, Englebert Humperdink, Al Martino, The Four Tops, Lew Soloff, Claudio Roditi, Ed Shaunessey, Bobby Darrin, Bob Mintzer and the Yellowjackets, David "Fathead" Newman, Peter Madsen, and has done tours of Japan, Europe, and Russia.Theatre work has included shows at Hartford Stage, Stage West .(Springfield, MA), Berkshire Theatre Festival, Barrington Stage, Colonial Theatre (Pittsfield, MA). Just to mention a few.

The only reason I am posting this is because you seem to think that some of us don't or can't do this stuff. If I were to regularly post this stuff, many would think that I'm full of myself. I also doubt that many are going to travel to Massachusetts if they live more than 100 miles away. I email my current itinerary to my friends, who wish to hear me perform that live in the area. I don't need a website as a freelance musician.

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jgadvert · Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 12:34 am Post subject:

Thanks for responding. First (BTW) I also plain enjoy looking at websites when provided. Don't you?

Well...when someone gives advice, "I" appreciate (and feel it' appropriate for them to provide) a "little" background info. It sort of (when combined with quality verbal information)validates it to some extent. Dont agree, huh? Dosen't make sense? I respect your point of view. So you don't care who or "what" the heck your getting advice from on the internet, huh? Just let the words say it all? Ok, I respect your opinion.

I should just assume that he/she is probably a really cool, dignified anonymous member/former member of a well known, oh, lets say; philharmonic orchestra for example? Or played with the long list of great folks like Pete has? Who for security, political, geographical relavance etc, etc ... reasons would rather not; or see any point in listing anything?

Again, I just find it sursprising in todays computer world (even only if as a "courtesy" to those you associate with) to not have some sort of website to list. Any of the various musical related organizations (at any level) you play(or have played with), admire or in any other way appreciate. Your school, church for example. If your a pro, semi, ametuer (whatever you consider yourself), maybe one of the groups you frequently play with. You don't huh? Dos'nt make any sense? Ok.

jonalan · Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:11 am Post subject:

I'd have to agree with trumpetmike -- that it really doesn't matter to me if someone lists their credentials or not. We have to decide for ourselves whether suggestions of others makes sense for us to try or not.

Just because someone studied music at XYZ College or plays in a band, doesn't necessarily mean they are any better a player (or teacher) than someone that didn't study music in college or doesn't play in a band. Having a website is completely meaningless to me.

Actually, if we get in the habit of looking for credentials, experience levels, etc., in order to make a decision on whether to read a post or completely ignore it, we may be missing out on some good, positive, beneficial information.
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LittleRusty · Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 1:54 pm Post subject:

I think for newbies some information on the qualifications would help. But after you have been here for a while it becomes clear who has good advice and who doesn't.

The forum is really self correcting, since if someone gives bogus advice someone else, often many someone elses, will point it out.

That said, I think many people on here are asking questions hoping to validate their own viewpoint, and it won't matter what answers they get. Think of the horns forum when someone asks a question about their favorite brand and then gets into a flame war.

lh · Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 3:32 pm Post subject:

Look....

When you are a spy for the good guys, a freelance hit-man for Uncle Luigi, a world class millionaire sex symbol, and an international man of mystery, you just can't advertise it on the internet.

I guess you'll just have to take your chances with the pearls of knowledge that fall out of my mouth...

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Leedorham · Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 1:55 pm Post subject:

Whenever the "Show your credentials" argument comes up in a post, I tend to be pretty indifferent on the issue. I really don't care if someone shows me their website or degree or all the famous performers they have played with. If someone's posts seem intelligent, they are probably an intelligent person. If they seem unintelligent, no website or list of credentials is going to sway my opinion. If it makes you feel good about yourself or if you're proud of what you do then more power to you. I actually like to see the non-music credentials and the non-music websites just to see the range of people that love to play the trumpet. The only reason I put a hyperlink in my signature is so people can get an idea what sort of playing I mostly do (it's a hobby band really). I have no illusions of any other result. You'll notice the rest of my signature is anything but serious. If you are trying to get ahead in the world using discussion groups, you should probably re-think your strategy.

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jgadvert · Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:51 pm Post subject:

"The only reason I put a hyperlink in my signature is so people can get an idea what sort of playing I mostly do" Very nice, courteous, simple way to put it.

Nice to see some of the things you folks do. Maybe other readers find it interesting, useful as well. It seems common sense to communicate a "little" idea of what you do when you offer advice or converse on a subject. You just think it would come up somewhere along the way in posts. No one else noticed this? OK. I understand how some players need to remain anonymous, but maybe then, they shouldnt be the ones getting on an internet post site and offering advice then. Hope those reading can respect my opinion.

Nonsense Eliminator · Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 9:27 pm Post subject:

The only reason I put any links in my signature is that I got fed up with people insinuating that I was overstating my credentials.

When I first started posting on TH, I was totally anonymous. People who were inclined to agree with me assumed that I was a big-time player; people who were inclined to disagree with me assumed that I was a student with a big mouth and too much time on his hands. After I was "outed," not much changed. People who are inclined to agree with me see "National Ballet Orchestra" and think I must be some kind of hotshot; people who are inclined to disagree with me think that ballet music is just tinkly Sugar Plum Fairy bullcrap and I'm just some hack who managed to land a part-time job playing wussy-pants music. The truth, as usual, is somewhere in between.

As I've said many times, I don't particularly want people to consider my resume when they evaluate what I have to say. I'd much rather convince somebody by explaining my thought process than by pointing at my resume. Certainly, there are times when I feel that my experience as a professional (such as it is) may give me insights that are unavailable -- or even counterintuitive -- to somebody who's not playing for a living. But usually those are the things that it's impossible to convince people of anyway.
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If someone offers you advice, take it for what it is. You needn't know how valid their opinion is to understand if the information they offer you is valid.

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Yoder · Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:29 pm Post subject:

Well, I had a link to my site for many months but when it was clicked on it fired up Outlook. Now I see the some have working links so I will try again.
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