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skootchy Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:18 pm Post subject: Louis Armstrong's horns |
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Just curious; What is the history on Satchmo's equiptment? What kind of horns/mouthpieces did he use? _________________ Praise him with the sound of the trumpet! Ps. 150:3
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Asian Man Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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I know at some point he was endorsing Selmer horns. Most, if not all of his horns, were "balanced models." _________________ Bach Strad (lacq.) 37
Yamaha C Trumpet (silver) YTR6445HS
Couesnon Monopole Flugelhorn circa 1970
7 rims (Curry)
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bilboinsa Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Dec 2005 Posts: 3378 Location: San Antonio, TX
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:12 am Post subject: |
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Pops played on several makes, but as a pro, he is mostly remembered for Selmer trumpets. To paraphrase him, "Selmer trumpets better than all the rest of the trumpets in the whole g*dd*mn world". _________________ Doug Walsdorf
Schilke B2;
Kanstul 1525;
1927 Conn 22B
1970 B&H Regent
"In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit...it was a hobbit-hole, and that means comfort."
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bach_again Heavyweight Member
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Robert Rowe Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:37 am Post subject: |
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Somewhere ... ( ? ), I have a B&W photo of him with a Getzen Super-Deluxe.
Yogi Robt _________________ ~ Love animals ... don't eat them. ~
I miss Genghis Khan .... |
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textr Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:12 am Post subject: |
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In his home in Corona, Queens (which is now a musuem), there is a collection of horns that not only he (Louis) played but horns that companies and fans gave him over the years. Pops seemed to favor the French Selmers ( balanced action models ) but he has some Leblancs (French) in his arsenal also. I'm not too sure what he played on in his early years, but for most of his career he played the French Selmer Balanced Action Model
25A , I believe. Same horn that Harry James played, until he had King start making his horns in the mid fifties because Selmer wouldn't make a " Harry James Model" |
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maynard-46 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:05 am Post subject: Louis Armstrong's horns |
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Giardinelli Custom Mouthpiece.
Butch _________________ TRUMPE: YAMAHA Lacq. "Shew Gen II" / Legends .585 "CatMaster" Top / KT "RT#1" BB / Reeves #4.75 Sleeve.
FLUGELHORN: ADAMS Custom "F1" / Legends .585 "CatMaster" FL. |
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bunny Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:20 am Post subject: |
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A Harry B. Jay "Columbia" cornet during the King Oliver years. This had a removable leadpipe and the gold plated example I saw in a Louis Armstrong house exhibit on tour in Chicago years ago was set up for a trumpet mouthpiece.
Later Buescher and then Conn trumpets. The Conn was a 56B "New Era", I think. The Selmer balanced models that he played from his first trip to Europe onwards was the 20A, not the large bore that Harry played.
Many different mouthpieces through the years. When Jack Teagarden was in the All-stars he carried around equipment to "custom" modify mouthpieces himself! |
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GordonH Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Nov 2002 Posts: 2895 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:53 am Post subject: |
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Louis played a 19A narrow bore mainly.
Here is some evidence:
http://rouses.net/satchmo/glasser.htm _________________ Bb - Scherzer 8218W, Schilke S22, Bach 43, Selmer 19A Balanced
Pic - Weril
Flugel - Courtois 154
Cornet - Geneva Heritage, Conn 28A
Mouthpieces - Monette 1-5 rims and similar.
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Getzen Heavyweight Member
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Robert Rowe Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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Getzen wrote: | I don't know about him and a Super Deluxe, but I have an old magazine ad with him playing a Getzen Slide Trumpet. Naturally, I love that ad.
Brett Getzen |
... 'tis true, Getzen-Guy.
(If pictures don't lie ....)
If I ever find it ... (it's "buried" with a bunch of music memorabilia, including Miles', Maynard's, Harry's autographs). I moved twice within the past 5-years. Maybe you can relate to that (?) ....
Yogi Robt _________________ ~ Love animals ... don't eat them. ~
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Robert Rowe Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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Brett --
When (if?) I find it, I'll shoot you a photo-scan copy.
Yogi Robt _________________ ~ Love animals ... don't eat them. ~
I miss Genghis Khan .... |
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Asian Man Heavyweight Member
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beaukoo Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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During the late 1920s, I believe he played a Buescher 10-22R trumpet (a model of the 10-22 with a rotary valve for a key change instead of the main tuning slide insert).
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d5968 Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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In his early years he did play a Harry B. Jay columbia with trumpet mpc. I have a 1922 model. large bore in excellent condition. Plays very well. Mine has the cornet mpc pipe. like a long shepherd's crook cornet. _________________ Courtois Flugel
'36 NY bach 26-62
Destino-USA #2
Flip Oakes Cornet (Wild Thing)
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bunny Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I have a Hary B. Jay also.Very nice. We should note that King Oliver was playing these. I have always guessed that the very first Hot Fives are played with a fairly traditional cornet mouthpiece. Then, around the time of the Hot Sevens a change to the trumpet mouthpiece. This dovetails with Pop's theatre work where he was required to play trumpet. Eventually, a change to the Buescher. However, recording techniques also enter into the discussion.
PS- The only picture I've ever seen of Louis with a slide cornet is a picture of the Creole Jazz Band. Long before Getzen. If someone has a picture of a mature Louis with a slide trumpet , please post. |
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bunny Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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OK= now I see the ad. Well, Pops was a very nice man! |
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Getzen Heavyweight Member
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bilboinsa Heavyweight Member
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d5968 Veteran Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:25 am Post subject: |
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Brett - you're one neat guy-thanks for being one of us-I still have the Eternal Severinsen model no SK2844 in excellent condition and plays great. _________________ Courtois Flugel
'36 NY bach 26-62
Destino-USA #2
Flip Oakes Cornet (Wild Thing)
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