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Randall Nelson Veteran Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:35 am Post subject: |
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...thanks...super!!...I think the comment I'll be busy for a while is right on....
Best,
Randy _________________ Randy Nelson
Olds Super Recording
Kanstul Chicago
Kanstul French Besson Marvin Stamm
Lawler C7
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quad_c_screamer Veteran Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:43 am Post subject: |
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That is a TON of free music, and just what I have been looking for. Thanks a lot to both the guy who found the original link, and the guy who reposted. |
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BeboppinFool Donald Reinhardt Forum Moderator
Joined: 28 Dec 2001 Posts: 6437 Location: AVL|NC|USA
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:12 am Post subject: |
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quad_c_screamer wrote: | Thanks a lot to both the guy who found the original link, and the guy who reposted. |
What about the guys who came up with those lines in the first place? C'mon, my man, how 'bout some credit where credit is due?
The best players steal from the best! _________________ Puttin’ On The Ritz |
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skyline73 Veteran Member
Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Posts: 109 Location: Lake Havasu City, AZ
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for posting those again... I have them saved to my computer now _________________ Custom Bb from Trumpet Design Studio
LA Olds Ambassador Trumpet
Curry Mouthpieces - 1DE, 1ZM, 90M, 90TF
Xstream Mouthpieces - X8/XXX
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Yamahaguy Heavyweight Member
Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 3992
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:06 am Post subject: |
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BeboppinFool wrote: | The best players steal from the best! | So true...so thanks to Brownie, Trane, and Brecker. I love stealing from you! |
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Wildman Heavyweight Member
Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 513
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:04 am Post subject: Re: Tons of Jazz patterns (PDF) |
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allstarbugler wrote: |
Got to admit I am curious about something, and this question is not directed at you, just a general question to all trumpet players: I'm not a jazz player. But after I learn all these licks and patterns (which are not difficult but definately time consuming), how much money can I realistically expect to earn over and above what I am making now bugling at a race track?
Sincere Thanks! |
Depends how well you can play and use them. |
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windandsong Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Feb 2006 Posts: 706 Location: Whitstable, UK
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:41 am Post subject: |
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oxleyk wrote: | This is one thing that has always baffled me about learning jazz. What do you do with these patterns?
Kent |
Ive been asking myself the same question for years. I mean back in the day surely the cats didnt sit around transcribing off the record, putting the needle back. They must have got together and gone 'check this out, you can play this over this!'
Not to discredit this kind of learning in any way...I just wish I could benefit from it too, but cant suss out how. Is it a question of just going over stuff systematically again and again until it sinks in?!
The only stuff that ever comes out in my playing is something I like from the start and my brain and heart is going 'yes' when i hear it.
Confused. |
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Yamahaguy Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:56 am Post subject: |
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windandsong wrote: | I mean back in the day surely the cats didnt sit around transcribing off the record, putting the needle back. | Matter of fact, that's exactly what they did. |
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healey.cj Heavyweight Member
Joined: 26 Jul 2006 Posts: 2011
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:16 am Post subject: |
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windandsong Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Feb 2006 Posts: 706 Location: Whitstable, UK
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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Yamahaguy wrote: | windandsong wrote: | I mean back in the day surely the cats didnt sit around transcribing off the record, putting the needle back. | Matter of fact, that's exactly what they did. |
interesting. why not i guess?
and right ho chris on playing them over changes to really understand the whole bit. I should try this more.
thanks guys |
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MikeyMike Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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Yamahaguy wrote: | windandsong wrote: | I mean back in the day surely the cats didnt sit around transcribing off the record, putting the needle back. | Matter of fact, that's exactly what they did. |
Some even slowed the LP's down with weight over the stylus. Tough on intonation and even tougher on vinyl. The wealthier (or more committed) bought reel-to-reels and recorded at one speed and played back at half-speed which yielded an octave shift although in proper pitch. _________________ Ahh... that old case smell. |
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carltrumpet Heavyweight Member
Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 530 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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healey.cj wrote: | I've come to the opinion that patterns and licks are useless unless you can play them along with the changes.
If you are practicing them without the chords then you never really learn how they work and fit into the rest of the music.
I dunno if I'm right, but that seems to be my (limited) experience with trying to make patterns work when actually soloing.
Chris |
I agree - unless you can really hear the sound of the chord progression in your head. But yes, patterns and lines seem to 'stick' better if you can practice them in the context of a chord progression |
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chuck in ny Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Sep 2006 Posts: 3610 Location: New York
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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yama,
great site much thanks..chuck |
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Bruin Heavyweight Member
Joined: 21 Mar 2008 Posts: 1346 Location: L.A. area
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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Hi, craigtrumpet.
Thank you very much! Very cool/generous of you to share these with us. Much appreciated!
Herb _________________ '64 Conn Connstellation 38B
Jupiter 846S flugelhorn
CarolBrass Mini Pocket Trumpet
Schilke 17& 17D4d4 trumpet mpcs
Schilke 17F flugelhorn mpc |
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EdMann Heavyweight Member
Joined: 31 Mar 2007 Posts: 2484 Location: The Big Valley
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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Chris,
To me, patterns themselves indicate the chord progression(s). I didn't buy into this until the last couple of years, but it's true. If you do them enough, get them under your fingers so they flow, you begin to hear the tonal centers and when you play with others and those chords pop up, so do some of the patterns for which they were designed and you begin to play those that fit along with whatever else pops into your head. Also, it gives you a context for jazz playing. For me, the more I do the more ideas I get when I'm up there, naked. Some of the best of the best work up their OWN patterns in practice to use in different contexts, something that's totally original.
Have a warm January,
Ed
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Yamahaguy Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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MikeyMike wrote: | Tough on intonation and even tougher on vinyl. | True. Back in the day, I always taped my records onto cassettes. Remember those?
I remember the very first solo I transcribed, posted here:
http://www.jazztrumpetsolos.com/solo.asp?soloist=MilesDavis&Solo=Auprivaue
Couldn't slow it down- I'll bet I rewound that tape a hundred times or more! But it was well worth it, lots of good licks in that one. On patterns...you really should transpose them in all keys. Ed is correct, they are great for the fingers but even better for your ears!
Chuck, you're welcome. I've been using that stuff for years, good theory and patterns not only for myself but my students as well.
Peace,
-Dennis |
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ConnArtist Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 Mar 2008 Posts: 2834 Location: La-la Land (corner of 13th and 13th)
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for bumping this thing up guys. I somehow missed this thread, and it is TEH ROXOR!!!!! _________________ "Stomvi" PhrankenPhlugel w/ Blessing copper bell
1958 Conn 18A cornet
1962 Conn 9A cornet (yes, the Unicorn )
Reynolds Onyx cornet
c. 1955? Besson 10-10 trumpet
1939 Martin Imperial Handcraft “Model 37”
1986 Bach Strad 37 ML |
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MikeyMike Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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Yamahaguy wrote: | Back in the day, I always taped my records onto cassettes. Remember those?
Peace,
-Dennis |
LOL. Had one too many of those hanging around and thought about putting it on ebay. Figured that was an exercise in futility and donated it to Goodwill. Some RTRs somewhere I'm sure, the old Dynaco still has a place in one of the systems (the middle part of a tri-amp config) and I've got more audio tubes Dr. Zarkov ever dreamed of. Oh, yeah, I remember cassettes. _________________ Ahh... that old case smell. |
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healey.cj Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:19 am Post subject: |
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Yamahaguy Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:40 am Post subject: |
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healey.cj wrote: | I remember seeing that solo and thinking "I wonder if that was Dennis...?" | Yes- that would be me!
There's also one of K.C. Blues too...he used to give a free CD with 2 solos,
Clark Terry w/ Metropole Orch.- what a deal!
Peace,
-Dennis |
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