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bkonstans1 Veteran Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:28 am Post subject: |
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kramergfy wrote: | razeontherock wrote: | Wayne Bergeron - just watch the cartoon movie a few times (untouchables?)
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And that would be "The Incredibles"...Michael Giacchino's score. |
I think Rick Baptist actually played lead on "The Incredibles" soundtrack. Wayne was there, though. Great movie, and horn line. See it if you get the chance. _________________ Bennett Konstans
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RogerIngram Veteran Member
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Macdaddy757 Veteran Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:32 am Post subject: |
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lynn nicholson is amazing too _________________ Shelby McCarty
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RogerIngram Veteran Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:12 am Post subject: |
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Another great lead trumpet player I forgot to mention is Marky Markowitz. He played lead trumpet with Woody Herman's band on the famous "Bird with the Herd" record featuring Charlie Parker. This album was recorded live in Washington DC during the 1950's.
As I'm sure we all know, having great "high chops" is not necessarily a prerequisite for being a good lead trumpet player. Among many other things, having a good "feel," good time, good concept, and being consistent (chops AND phrasing) are of the utmost importance. Marky Markowitz, Chet Ferritti, and Chris Griffin (lead with the Ed Sullivan show) were GREAT examples of this.
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houdini1313 Veteran Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:14 am Post subject: |
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bkonstans1 wrote: |
I think Rick Baptist actually played lead on "The Incredibles" soundtrack. Wayne was there, though. Great movie, and horn line. See it if you get the chance. |
Rick was principal trumpet, but Wayne played the screamin high parts (Just listen the the "The New Babysitter" or really any track on that cd. Regardless, still great trumpeting there. _________________ Powell Custom Bb
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mcgovnor Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:20 am Post subject: hey |
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Nice to see someone remember Marky, Roger. One morning decades ago I was going to a morning date and traveling down the Henry Hudson. I pulled into this small parking area and Marky was parked in there, warming up in the car.
I think I was on the same date as him that day. He could pull out a really shallow custom mouthpiece and play some great, bright lead. Thanks for mentioning him.
He was a sweetheart as well.
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mcgovnor Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:59 am Post subject: also |
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For that 70's 80's rock thing, recording, Findley was on fire..Grant as well.
And Gary could really swing. |
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RogerIngram Veteran Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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Yes...Chuck Findley: what a wonderful musician!
Growing up in L.A., I had the opportunity to hear him play lead trumpet with the Louie Bellson and Don Menza big bands on many occasions. He absolutely swings his butt off every time He's a wonderful jazz trumpet player too.
Chuck has always been a huge inspiration for me. He's also a very easy going guy: very giving and accessible to younger musicians.
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Macdaddy757 Veteran Member
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Roger, it is really cool that you are on here. You are an incredible player yourself. I really loved the blue light, red light album. The title track and just kiss me are so amazing. Those double high d's were so nice.lol _________________ Shelby McCarty
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Yamahaguy Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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RogerIngram wrote: | As I'm sure we all know, having great "high chops" is not necessarily a prerequisite for being a good lead trumpet player. Among many other things, having a good "feel," good time, good concept, and being consistent (chops AND phrasing) are of the utmost importance. | Roger, could you explain how you learned this? You, of course, are one of the top lead players of all time. I'm sure we could all benefit from your expertise!
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RogerIngram Veteran Member
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EricM224 Veteran Member
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A few names come to mind... Greg Wing, Joey Tartell, and John Harner! Greg Wing played with Buddy Rich, Paul Anka, Tom Jones and DOJO. Joey played with Maynard, the Jazz Ambassadors, several others. John Harner played with Stan Kenton ("Send in the Clowns"). All great guys and amazing lead players!!! Check them out!!! _________________ Bach Trumpet Artist - Clinician
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quad_c_screamer Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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Probably have to mention Cat Anderson. Seems like a disservice not to. Lynn Nicholson and Wayne Bergeron are a couple of my favorites. Great feel, great style, amazing, fat sound in all registers, and they made the people around them better. |
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Greg Livingston Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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Leon Merian- what a great guy, and what an awesome player. He dated my mother-in-law in high school, and I worked with him in the 80's in several GB bands. |
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Gregory Gilmore Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:02 pm Post subject: Lead trumpet players |
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Charlie Turner with Frank. |
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agolden Veteran Member
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dbacon Heavyweight Member
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Cat did the Ice Show for a while.....had a book written just for him....wow... |
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mcgovnor Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:05 am Post subject: distinction |
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One additional thing to keep in mind is the distinction between players who specialize in lead playing in the studio and those who are known for live playing.
I hear the questions and arguments already.
A recording player usually gets acquainted with the techniques involved in the studio, and by doing it over the years, develops certain skills, like recognizing who is playing what voice in different sections, cut offs, entrances, and what effects, positively and negatively, the efficacy of a particular pass. Concentration is different as well, as sometimes duplicating the entire pass is necessary, often 20 or more times for various reasons.
The sound focus is also different. A strong dense cord usually penetrates the track. The peripheral stuff on a sound, the stuff that gets it over in a live band, is often lost when recording. There are so many other differences,however these are just a few. |
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BobList Heavyweight Member
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nyctrumpeter Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:02 pm Post subject: Re: distinction |
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mcgovnor wrote: | One additional thing to keep in mind is the distinction between players who specialize in lead playing in the studio and those who are known for live playing.
I hear the questions and arguments already.
A recording player usually gets acquainted with the techniques involved in the studio, and by doing it over the years, develops certain skills, like recognizing who is playing what voice in different sections, cut offs, entrances, and what effects, positively and negatively, the efficacy of a particular pass. Concentration is different as well, as sometimes duplicating the entire pass is necessary, often 20 or more times for various reasons.
The sound focus is also different. A strong dense cord usually penetrates the track. The peripheral stuff on a sound, the stuff that gets it over in a live band, is often lost when recording. There are so many other differences,however these are just a few. |
While this is true, many great studio players are also great live players and visa versa. You have to be today. I understand what you mean when you speak of the distinct qualities of a studio player but I think you need the same and even more quality when playing live because you only get one shot at it. I know Wayne Bergeron can do both very well. So can Chuck Findley and the list goes on. |
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