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Quadruple C Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Nov 2001 Posts: 1448
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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X3L Veteran Member
Joined: 18 Oct 2002 Posts: 212 Location: Waukesha, WI
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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On 2003-06-09 09:04, GR Tech wrote:
We doubt that you have tried all the GR mouthpieces, we have over 6000 designs and 1232 models as of yesterday.
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Hey GR,
Just out of curiousity, how many of those 6000 designs and 1232 models were for Doc Severinsen???
John MacGregor
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Bill Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 Nov 2001 Posts: 636 Location: Wilmington, North Carolina
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2003 3:32 am Post subject: |
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Hi John,
How goes it in beautiful Wisconsin? Hope all is well with your brood up in the hinterland.
I also think the world of GR and Bruce Lee. I've been playing Gary's mouthpieces exclusively since 1998. I too had the luxury of being close enough to drive up to Dousman to spend several hours with Gary at his shop for a proper fitting.
The sound and feel is what it's all about. I get a good sound and a comfortable play with his pieces still. I bought a NBrass 63**** from Bruce over a year ago and I still can't decide which one, the 65MS or the 4 star works better. Bright and harsh are 2 words that don't describe my sound I don't think.
Take care, John. BTW do you still have the frankenstein C trumpet?
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Bill Mirrielees
[ This Message was edited by: Bill on 2003-06-11 06:34 ] |
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X3L Veteran Member
Joined: 18 Oct 2002 Posts: 212 Location: Waukesha, WI
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2003 4:55 am Post subject: |
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Mr. Bill,
Everything's fine up here in Cheeseland, thank you. The kids got out of school last Friday and are spending every waking moment with Cartoon Network, Nintendo, or Lizzie McGuire. To be young again!!
I couldn't agree more with you in regard to Gary Radtke and Bruce Lee, both are really great guys! I am puzzled to hear people describe GR's mouthpieces as "bright" or "commercial"...for me, these products provide a greater core to my sound with rich overtones.
Funny you should mention the C trumpet. Numerous others have played that horn, and I've lost count of the number of offers to purchase it which I have received. I smile and think of you everytime someone asks me to sell it. My answer is always the same, "the guy who sold it to me has right of first refusal should I decide to sell the horn".
By day I work in the real estate business, and I can't help but notice how good the Mirrielees family has been to my industry. Come to think of it, I'd probably be retired by now if I had just come to work for you as your "real estate consultant". I'm convinced that your goal is to be the first person in history to mail out Christmas cards from all 50 states.
Take care,
John MacGregor
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rlspitzer Regular Member
Joined: 25 Jan 2002 Posts: 48 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2003 8:13 am Post subject: |
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I had a similar experience to what several others have already posted. I’ve been very impressed with the sound, efficiency, etc. in the GR pieces but what really stood out in my mind during the whole process was how exceptional Bruce was to deal with. While the GR’s are more expensive than many other pieces out there I felt, overall, that I came out ahead. Between the questionnaire and Bruce’s analysis, I was fitted with the correct mouthpiece on the second try, saving the hassle and expense of a major mouthpiece safari. The first piece Bruce suggested was a 67M which I thought was too bright so I opted for a 67MX. Ironically, after adjusting to the new piece, it turned to be too symphonic sounding for the praise band I play in so I ended up getting the 67M as well. |
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patrick32378 Veteran Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2002 Posts: 323 Location: Denton Tx
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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I've heard a lot of talk about "sound" and "brightness" or "darkness." I think that you are going to sound like you no matter what mouthpiece you play on. One has to have that mental image of sound...and i think you'll get that sound even if it means manipulating to get it. I, like so many others, have (had) gotten so caught up in having a big, dark, round sound, that I failed to realize what exactly a dark sound is. After meeting with Gary I was educated. Some people make the mouthpieces, some people make the machines that make the mouthpieces, some people dont make anything and just play...I prefer to buy a mouthpiece from the man who can play the mouthpiece that he built from the machines that he also, himself, built. Efficiency, sound, yadda yadda, set aside...look at the testimonials. Of all the many i have seen...most seem pretty positive. If one is searching for a mouthpiece, or even curious about all the hype, isn't that reason enough to give it a shot with all the places that have return policies on GR pieces? Who knows maybe you too will come around.
Bartok: I think that when you are unimpressed with the "sound." This stems from you believing that an orchestral trumpet player has to have the dark, round sound. I think you'll find that it's much easier and efficient to play with a centered, focused sound that can cut through a string section rather than a dull, dark mouthpiece that you have to muscle your way through with.
More efficient? Certainly!! Thanks Gary |
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_dcstep Heavyweight Member
Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Posts: 6324 Location: Denver
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 6:40 am Post subject: |
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On 2003-07-20 17:01, patrick32378 wrote:
I've heard a lot of talk about "sound" and "brightness" or "darkness." I think that you are going to sound like you no matter what mouthpiece you play on. One has to have that mental image of sound...and i think you'll get that sound even if it means manipulating to get it. I, like so many others, have (had) gotten so caught up in having a big, dark, round sound, that I failed to realize what exactly a dark sound is. |
I agree with this, within limits. I think that I sound "darker" tonally than most other trumpeters on the same equipment (I blame that on having heard Don Jacoby live when I was ten and that sound image is stuck in my head forever, thank the Lord). Anyway, I've got a GR66S, a 66MS and a 66LX and I'm certain that my tone is different with each.
Ciao,
Dave _________________ Schilke '60 B1 -- 229 Bach-C/19-350 Blackburn -- Lawler TL Cornet -- Conn V1 Flugel -- Stomvi Master Bb/A/G picc -- GR mpcs
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TossedSalad Veteran Member
Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 236
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 7:02 am Post subject: |
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Bartok,
You owe it to yourself to try the Haefner models. Many people I know love them - unbelievable sound, and there is a new C cup model which is more efficient if the signature is too big.
TS |
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trpt-master Veteran Member
Joined: 02 Apr 2003 Posts: 352
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 9:45 am Post subject: |
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What is a Haefner model mouthpiece. Who makes it and what is better about it? Never tried one.
In Peace,
TM
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On 2003-07-21 10:02, TossedSalad wrote:
Bartok,
You owe it to yourself to try the Haefner models. Many people I know love them - unbelievable sound, and there is a new C cup model which is more efficient if the signature is too big.
TS
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B. Scriver Heavyweight Member
Joined: 14 Jan 2002 Posts: 1204 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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Tpt-master,
GR makes the Haefner Series Mouthpieces using the same math that is used in all GR-made mouthpieces.
Steve Haefner is an outstanding orchestral player and the Haefner Line was obviously developed originally for him. They played so well that Steve decided to market them. For more information visit http://www.trumpetpro.com.
B. Scriver
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