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All Star Music New Member
Joined: 29 Jun 2020 Posts: 1 Location: Toledo, OH
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:57 am Post subject: S. E. Shires picc? |
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Has anyone had the chance to try the various Shires piccs? I'm curious how the different bells feel and sound, and how they compare as a group to other popular piccs (Yamaha, Getzen, Schilke, etc...). Also, how do the Shires piccs play with Blackburn leadpipes? _________________ Gerhard Hofer
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Bb - 1977 Bach 37 / GR 67L
C - 2012 S. E. Shires 4P3 / GR 67L |
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DJtpt31 Veteran Member
Joined: 02 Dec 2015 Posts: 308 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:22 am Post subject: |
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Got a chance to play one at the NAMM show 2 years ago. I enjoyed the way the horn played... similar to the Schilke P5-4. _________________ "You need F-15's..." Joe Biden |
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a.kemp Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Aug 2008 Posts: 681 Location: NYC
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:51 am Post subject: |
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The Shires Picc plays circles around the newer Schilkes I’ve played.
I play a Yamaha 9825. If I didn’t, I’d get a Shires. Best 2 picca I’ve played, outside of maybe the Thein. |
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patdublc Heavyweight Member
Joined: 02 Jun 2006 Posts: 1058 Location: Salisbury, MD
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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I use 3 piccs - a Schilke P5-4 that I've had since 1986, a standard configuration Shires, and a long bell Spencer.
If you have any specific questions, just ask. Here are a few general comments -
The Spencer has the darkest sound and plays more like a big horn. It works great as a solo horn and for those pieces where you might want more volume.
The Schilke's have been cloned many times and I believe that is because they have such an excellent design. In some ways, the P5-4 is still my go-to horn but you have to remember that I've used it for 34 years so comfort is definitely a factor. I use a Blackburn trumpet lead pipe in A and the standard Schilke cornet lead pipe in Bb.
As for the Shires, I guess I would describe it as a Schilke-like horn with a little more refinement. I use the Shires supplied lead pipes. They supply 4 lead pipes - A & Bb for both cornet & trumpet. I have not tried a Blackburn pipe on this horn., _________________ Pat Shaner
Play Wedge Mouthpieces by Dr. Dave exclusively.
Experiment with LOTS of horn makes and models. |
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BaldEagle Regular Member
Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 40
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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I liked the Shires so much, I bought one, sold my Schilke P5-4 and never looked back. I totally agree with patdubic, the Shires is a more refined version of the Schilke. Pitch is a bit better, sound is a bit fuller. In particular the Bb side of the the Shires is far superior to my Schilke. I've never felt the need to try Blackburn pipes on this horn |
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DJtpt31 Veteran Member
Joined: 02 Dec 2015 Posts: 308 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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BaldEagle wrote: | I liked the Shires so much, I bought one, sold my Schilke P5-4 and never looked back. I totally agree with patdubic, the Shires is a more refined version of the Schilke. Pitch is a bit better, sound is a bit fuller. In particular the Bb side of the the Shires is far superior to my Schilke. I've never felt the need to try Blackburn pipes on this horn |
Contemplating on doing the exact same thing. _________________ "You need F-15's..." Joe Biden |
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nltrumpet Veteran Member
Joined: 11 Nov 2019 Posts: 206 Location: Washington DC
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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I’ve messed around on one my friend owns, he swears it’s the best piccolo he’s ever played. It’s been a number of years since I’ve tried it, though. |
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Eric Ball Veteran Member
Joined: 16 Nov 2006 Posts: 261
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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Absolutely fantastic instrument! I prefer the trumpet leadpipe setup. It has a gorgeous modern piccolo sound. Centers great in the "low" notes and sings right up to the last note you have. Have only tried (and bought) the 9Y bell. I agree, there is no need for a blackburn pipe..Shires got this right.
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