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loil Veteran Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 1:04 am Post subject: |
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kmag wrote: | Where are your albums for sale? |
Hey
Thanks for your interest. You may check my www for more info. Especialy the 'discographie' link
https://christopheleloil.com/discographie/
Best regards _________________ C. LeLoiL
http://christopheleloil.com/
1969 Connstellation 38B
1977 Martin Committee
197* Couesnon Flugel
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loil Veteran Member
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Robert P Heavyweight Member
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oxleyk wrote: | Karel wrote: | What makes those mouthpieces different or special for you in comparison with other famous brands? |
Jedi mind tricks. |
This is not the lead piece you seek... ~wave hand~ _________________ Getzen Eterna Severinsen
King Silver Flair
Besson 1000
Bundy
Chinese C
Getzen Eterna Bb/A piccolo
Chinese Rotary Bb/A piccolo
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rufflicks Heavyweight Member
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RussellDDixon Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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Arturo has given up his Mt Vernon Bach piece ? |
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rufflicks Heavyweight Member
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RussellDDixon Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:57 am Post subject: |
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We're having Supper ... I'll ask. |
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rufflicks Heavyweight Member
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Karel Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 Dec 2001 Posts: 501 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:17 am Post subject: |
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A few weeks ago I purchased a Donat mouthpiece from the newest dealer in Europe, specific in the Netherlands (website: balanced-embouchure.eu). What can I say; Donat mouthpieces are, in my opinion, the best kept secret in mouthpiece business at this moment. However as I understand some great players have already discovered them. Comfort, flexibility, intonation and sound, that's what impresses me the most. Donat mouthpieces have, as I'm right, a somewhat larger throat but they play very easy. So yes, I'm a fan! |
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jojocat Heavyweight Member
Joined: 08 Dec 2012 Posts: 948 Location: Baie St-Paul, Quebec, Canada
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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Karel wrote: | A few weeks ago I purchased a Donat mouthpiece from the newest dealer in Europe, specific in the Netherlands (website: balanced-embouchure.eu). What can I say; Donat mouthpieces are, in my opinion, the best kept secret in mouthpiece business at this moment. However as I understand some great players have already discovered them. Comfort, flexibility, intonation and sound, that's what impresses me the most. Donat mouthpieces have, as I'm right, a somewhat larger throat but they play very easy. So yes, I'm a fan! |
I'm totally behind what's written above. I have 2 Donat mouthpieces here, the Touvron model and the 169C. I mainly played with the Touvron and I'm totally in love with this mouthpiece; sound, intonation, endurance, I just can't imagine playing with another mouthpiece than this one. The 169C is also a great classical mouthpiece with a large full sound and awesome intonation.
I exchanged mails with Dimitri and after I responded to his questions about my horn and the music I play, the mouthpieces I use, he highly recommended to try his Guy Touvron model. Bullseye!
No doubt Donat mouthpieces will have a great future. Hope you'll have the opportunity to try a couple of these wonderful mouthpieces. _________________ The least we can do is wave to each other
Martin Committee trumpet
Yamaha 6335H
Yamaha 6320
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fredo Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Feb 2011 Posts: 589 Location: France
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:26 am Post subject: |
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This mouthpiece (the Touvron) is a beast.
I finished the Big band rehearsal yesterday with lips to do an other one.
Crisp sound, intonation, endurance are superb.
Dimitri is highly influenced by Monette but discovered something to add to permit this endurance gain.
The high harmonics are also more present and the sound less "brassy" or "tuby" in the low and middle register.
A very well balanced piece.
I have also a 168 C and a 168 Flugel who are great mpcs, the 168 C is closest to the Silver 6 for the sound but again with a better endurance.
Dimitri's pieces are not Monette copies despite the external shape of his short shanked pieces.
The quality and plating are also top level. _________________ Frederic FELTZ
Yamaha XENO 2 8335 S
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jojocat Heavyweight Member
Joined: 08 Dec 2012 Posts: 948 Location: Baie St-Paul, Quebec, Canada
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:42 am Post subject: |
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Hi Fredo,
no they are absolutely not copies. I didn't played a bunch of Monette mouthpices, maybe 3-4 and the Donat have their own personality.
Can you tell me a bit more about the 168C? I'm tempted to order one.
By the way, Dimitri will ship me a used Truffaz mouthpiece; very curious and excited to try it.
I love the Touvron model so much I immediately ordered a short shank heavier version...
Thanks. _________________ The least we can do is wave to each other
Martin Committee trumpet
Yamaha 6335H
Yamaha 6320
Accent 781 |
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theslawdawg Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Oct 2008 Posts: 843 Location: Waikiki, Hawaii
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:49 am Post subject: |
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I purchased his version of a Bach 3C and I LOVE IT. For me, the rim that he makes just feels better. It's a little wider and has a bit more cushion. I have a Bach 3C, and I would say the Donat has a little more resistance, which I like.
I just ordered a custom lead mouthpiece from Ko (his dealer for stateside) after chatting with Dimitri (a little name dropping), and the interaction has been fantastic. They are making me a lead mouthpiece similar to one that Eric Miyashiro plays which he calls the 161F (similar to a Bach 10 1/2). I asked for a wider/flatter rim than normal and they happily started the work.
All the best,
Jr _________________ My go-to Trumpet and Flugel: Thane.
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fredo Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Feb 2011 Posts: 589 Location: France
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:18 am Post subject: |
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Hi Jojocat
The 168 C seems as the Monette 6 a slightly smaller 3C
Great all around mpc with less brilliance and endurance than the Touvron but a fatter low and middle register. i have it in heavy short blank.
The problem is that the Touvron is a chameleon and so easy to play that i barely play the 168.
For me the Touvron diameter seems between 3 and 7 Bach closest to 7 and the 168 closest to 3.
I have 2 Touvron : shorts, 22 bore, light and heavy, I prefer the heavy.
Dimitri said me that the 169 was clearly bigger than the 168 with more effort to play it and a decreased endurance (think 1 1/2c vs 3 C ?)
Jr, what is your version of your Bach 3C ?
Fred _________________ Frederic FELTZ
Yamaha XENO 2 8335 S
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jojocat Heavyweight Member
Joined: 08 Dec 2012 Posts: 948 Location: Baie St-Paul, Quebec, Canada
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:10 am Post subject: |
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fredo wrote: |
Jr, what is your version of your Bach 3C ?
Fred |
Don't know if I understood what you meant but the 169C has a classic blank. Is that what you wanted to know? Definitely larger than the Touvron, but not more difficult to play for me as I'm used to larger rims. I even asked Dimitri if it would be possible to make a Touvron with a slightly larger rim, but I'm afraid it will disturb the balance thus the the magic of this mouthpiece.
Other than that I have the same ''problem'' you have: I'm so pleased with the Touvron I don't play other mouthpieces....I even started to make a cleaning by putting a bunch of pieces on FB ads. _________________ The least we can do is wave to each other
Martin Committee trumpet
Yamaha 6335H
Yamaha 6320
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fredo Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Feb 2011 Posts: 589 Location: France
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:42 am Post subject: |
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Jojocat, i asked to Jr : theslawdawg who posted after you. _________________ Frederic FELTZ
Yamaha XENO 2 8335 S
Lotus 3L brass |
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theslawdawg Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Oct 2008 Posts: 843 Location: Waikiki, Hawaii
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:26 am Post subject: |
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fredo wrote: | Hi Jojocat
The 168 C seems as the Monette 6 a slightly smaller 3C
Great all around mpc with less brilliance and endurance than the Touvron but a fatter low and middle register. i have it in heavy short blank.
The problem is that the Touvron is a chameleon and so easy to play that i barely play the 168.
For me the Touvron diameter seems between 3 and 7 Bach closest to 7 and the 168 closest to 3.
I have 2 Touvron : shorts, 22 bore, light and heavy, I prefer the heavy.
Dimitri said me that the 169 was clearly bigger than the 168 with more effort to play it and a decreased endurance (think 1 1/2c vs 3 C ?)
Jr, what is your version of your Bach 3C ?
Fred |
Hi Fred!
My apologies. My Donat mouthpiece is also a Touvron but has the diameter closer to a 3. I purchased this from a private seller for the ridiculously cheap price of 40 bucks (plus shipping). As for my Bach 3C, it is not the well sought after Mount Vernon...just one of the newer versions. Hope that helps.
All the best,
Jr _________________ My go-to Trumpet and Flugel: Thane.
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fredo Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:59 am Post subject: |
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Hi Jr, the Touvron has only one rim diameter, so we have the same rim and cup.
It's very difficult to compare the size of mpc and i think we will have different opinion of the comparison with Bach ones, even Dimitri has a hard job to make a equivalence chart.
He began to trust measurement to compare but all makers do not measure at the same point of the rim and alpha angle for example has a big influence on the sensation of size.
And some players said him sensations of diameter who are different from what the measures says.
So the chart on his site is not definitive and he is still working on it.
If you trust his chart the TOUVRON who is a 165 would be in the 7C diameter range.
Fred _________________ Frederic FELTZ
Yamaha XENO 2 8335 S
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theslawdawg Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:02 am Post subject: |
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Thank you Fred, for the clarification. Regardless...I love it! _________________ My go-to Trumpet and Flugel: Thane.
Greg Black MPs |
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nowave Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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Hey JR,
You mentioned ordering through his US dealer Ko — is that K.O. from Stomvi?
Thanks! |
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