Capt. Kirk is not completely full of crap

VetPsychWars · Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:25 pm Post subject:

I had a friend try to argue that the National Electrical Code should be ignored because the risk was low.

I spent hours ripping him a new one. Then he brought up ethics and morals.

I told him that it was not ethical to willfully ignore standards, regardless of the risk.

Thank you for reading my nonsequiter.

Tom
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Nuck81 · Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:17 am Post subject:

Every thread has at least one post from the so called "regulars" who think they are in the know bashing Capt Kirk. I've never seen Capt Kirk bash or insult anyone personally on this forum, in fact given his circumstances and how he is treated almost by the minute here.

Capt Kirk gives his opinion, which is what the entire point of a message forum is. Not everything is going to be to your liking. It's like a buffet, you take what you want, and forget the rest.

But the behavior of the "forum leaders" towards Capt Kirk is mainly why I quit coming here daily. When it comes down to it, pretty much no one knows what they're talking about. They can only speak from their personal experience and ability. The rest of the time they bash Capt Kirk.

I don't agree with everything he says, but Capt Kirk always keeps things polite and he never insults or bashes other users. The same can't be said for a lot of others. I think this says more about his mental state and personal character than some here. The constant and unrelenting bashing of Capt Kirk makes for a pretty immature and undesirable forum. For some reason the trumpet forums are the only ones like this. I find Low Brass forums to be very helpful and friendly....

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On one hand, Kirk tends to run on with his replies. On the other hand, I've seen more than one person on this forum be extremely rude, smug and snide to him, which to me is just flat out wrong on a human level...
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connicalman · Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:53 am Post subject:

To follow the prime directive, to seek out new life..., to go where no man has gone before...

Doesn't sound like today's media, so my money isn't on the Captain as a producer, for Fox, Wolf, Blitzen, Donner, Santa Clause or otherwise. To wit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjXAFEZUBGY [url][/url]
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RandyTX and supportlivejazz

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Brad361 · Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:49 pm Post subject:

I agree that Kirk sometimes does post accurate, useful information. But all you need to do is skim through some of his many posts, and you'll see that he also in fact can be sarcastic and insulting, as well as inaccurate. Every time Kirk is mentioned here, we see a few people rush to his defense. And I agree that he sometimes is abused unnecessarily, but a lot of the criticism he receives is deserved.

Brad361

TrumpetMD · Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:48 am Post subject:

lmf · Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:33 am Post subject:

Capt.Kirk hasn't said anything to bother the moderators, so I don't lose any sleep over it. He has "gone where no man has gone before" so it is very likely that some of his postings are out of this world.

Best wishes,

Lloyd

Vin DiBona · Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:24 pm Post subject:

I've been putting off getting involved here, but I just can't hold out any longer.
No, he isn't always full of it. Every once in a while, he finds some common, well known information, posts it right and practically proclaims it as the next great thing. Has he ever come up with an original thought? Has he posted the pictures of his work yet? (If they are here somewhere, please point me to them).
Last year he made mention that he thought Vincent Bach was not a "good enough" trumpet player to really test his designs. I guess performing in the Boston Symphony as associate first trumpet and later in the orchestra forned in New York for Diaghilev's first US stagings of Petrouchka and other now standard ballets wasn't good enough. Also last year, he posted Ren Schilke might have been losing it when it was posted that Schilke suggested valves don't always have to be taken out to be oiled - which they don't. Not long back he rather agreed with Mr. Schilke's thought on that matter. Nothing like being consistent.
He constantly lamented the fact that Getzen wouldn't sell him valves to make his horns. Getzen simply does not do that. Period. Still, he whined about and perhaps in some poor sap's mind, planted wrong thoughts about the splendid Getzen company.
Of course, his distaste for the Bach 37 bell and 25 pipe is legendary. I guess the thousands of performers who use that combination with great success should immediately switch to something else.
I don't know if he has ever been talked to by the moderators and he sure is always good for a laugh or a couple WTF is he talking about, isn't he?
Annoying, but rather harmless.
R. Tomasek

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I was sort of waiting for the next suggestion on horn cleaning.

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John Mohan · Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:00 pm Post subject:

I'm not going to read the posts in this thread. I'm just going to suggest that perhaps you all ought to remember that you’re discussing another person, a person who shares a common interest with you all, and a person who is capable of the same gamut of emotions you are.

Before you post, you should ask yourself if what you’re posting is something you'd say about him at say, a social gathering of friends you have in common with him, with him within earshot. I have a feeling some of the comments here wouldn't have been said under those circumstances, and if they had been, I'd really have to wonder about the person saying them - and as it is, I really would wonder about the person writing them.

And judging from the length of this thead, there must be a whole lot of trumpet players out there that are completely satisifed with their playing ability.

Sincerely,

John Mohan

P.S. What do trumpet players use for birth control?

Their personalities.

John Mohan · Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:12 pm Post subject:

Well, now I just went ahead and read through the posts. My feeling was basically wrong. Unless I missed something, everyone's been pretty civil in this thread. What a bunch of wimps. (Just kidding).

Nice to see.