Capital Punishment: Good or bad?

[botula]

What is your opinion on spanking, whipping, and beating your children?

[botula]

I think using capital punishment teaches our kids that using physcial agression is okay. Also, most psychologists say that it is detrimental to the child's mental health.

[uli]

I have never beaten my kids, and I can say that if I insist on something they obey. They are well behaved and all without any capital punishment.
I am very glad that it is illegal here to beat a child. Of course I know that sometimes your temper is hard to control, but it is always evil to apply force to a human being. Not acceptable.

Uli
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[silverstar]

When I was little and did something terribly bad that I knew I wasn't supposed to do, I got a spanking. It taught me quickly that doing bad things is a very bad idea.

In moderation, I think it's ok.

Lara
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[Tom LeCompte]

Um...spanking your kid is corporal punishment. Capital punishment is execution.

[Clarino]

Quick point, Capital Punishment is when a person is executed. Corporal Punishment is when you beat someone.


I think it's important that a child be taught when they have gone way over the line. It should be a rare occurrence though.



Edit: whoops, looks like Tom beat me to it!

[308WIN]

[plp]

Dang, after my son totaled his sister's car, I was opting more for capital punishment....


It depends on the child and the child's age. 99 per cent of the time, it does no good at all to spank a child over 12, and once my kids reached 8 or 9 it took something that posed a risk to their survival to make me break out the belt. A child under 2 has no concept of right or wrong, so spanking one that young doesn't do any good. In the terrible twos, a child is in explorer mode, and a swat on the butt with a stern warning is sometimes needed to keep them from hurting themselves. As they get older, and their awareness of their surroundings increases and refines, a spanking will help emphasize the moral forks in the road. This is only effective if they also get rewarded for the correct choices they make. Adversion therapy coupled with positive reinforcement will help define good and bad choices on their part.

My sons get uppity and sassy with their mom sometimes, and she is not above a pimpslap to the side of the head, if the situation dictates. I haven't had to raise a hand to them since they were probably 9, but the threat of total and complete destruction tends to keep them in line when they get into the whole 'hey y'all, watch THIS!!' mode.

[botula]

Quick point, Capital Punishment is when a person is executed. Corporal Punishment is when you beat someone.

wow, I feel like such a dope >_<



I know the difference, but I don't know why I wrote it wrong...

[ADziuk]

Corporal punishment has been shown by most studies to be just a very bad way to raise a child. You might get lucky and have a good kid anyway, but in general you are asking for more problems.

First of all, instead of a kid connecting their punishment for bad behavior as a natural consequence for what they did, they just connect bad behavior to "I shouldn't do it because I get spanked." Psychologically you raise a kid that has no mental connection to the real reasons WHY he or she needs to behave a certain way in society.

Second, there are just other behavior management techniques that may require more time and effort but work much, much better in the long run. Hey if you don't want to take the time to raise a kid right, you shouldn't have one in the first place.
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[badocter]

Actually, I think Capital punishment is a form of corporal punishment (the most severe kind I suppose...). Corporal simply means that it involves the body.

[horndevil]

Nothing wrong with a well considered slap if it is the final option, or used to stop behaviour that would otherwise lead to injury or death if not addressed instantly.

When very young, my son who is now 15, put his fingers into the mains electric socket on the wall (240V AC). When told to stop, he laughed and did ir reapeatedly. This resulted in a very gentle tap on the back of his hand which made him recoil. Each time he reached for the socket, he got another tap (3-4 times in total). He associated putting his finger in the socket with this response and never did it again. Result - he is now 15 and healthy, not dead!!!

Some people advocate talking to children over this type of incident, but you can't reason with a child of 7 months. By th time they are old enough to understand your rantings, they might already be no more than a crispy shell with a startled look and hair stood on end


Shouldn't this subject be in the locked forum???
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[AverageJoe]

I was spanked as a child, but it was always preceded by a lengthy explanation of why it was about to happen. I fully understood it to be an act of love -- of correction, not a process of fear. Corporal punishment was very effective for my upbringing. I turned out fine, and I deeply love and respect my father -- we are even business partners. We are closer now than we ever have been.

Can corporal punishment be detremental? Certainly. But ANY form of punishment, if not employed effectively, can be detremental.

Personally, I hope the religion/politics thread gets ironed out. I'm not saying "don't post this here," but I liked having a distinct home for the hot-button issues, separate from the lighthearted fare that has prevailed here in the lounge. It was great while it lasted...

<sigh>

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[DaveH]

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[Yoder]

[murph66]

I was spanked as a child, but it was not an everyday thing. The same for my kids- I had two of my grandkids over one morning several years ago and they were eating waffles. My grandson was trying to put what amounted to half a waffle in his mouth at one time. I told him to cut it up more and he just glared at me and stuffed the whole thing in his mouth. Bad move on his part- I was a senior NCO in the military at the time and was well versed in admonishing people when necessary. I put my mouth about 6 inches from his ear and went up one side and down the other- never laid a finger on him. When I got through, I checked my grandaughter and she was cutting her waffles into almost micro sized pieces. I get along fine with the grandson now and he has given me no more problems since.

[Yoder]

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