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ZeroMan
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| I actually have no opinion as to which recording is the best, but since those two pieces top the standard repertoire in terms of "trumpetiness", I'm interested in what the better informed folk out there have to say....... |
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Mzony
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Best of Poem:
Chicago/Jarvi
Boston/Monteux
and a later Boston with Ghitalla playing...I forget the conductor though.
Best Petrouchka
Cleveland/Boulez
Boston/Monteux
Boston/Ozawa
Montreal/Dutoit
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NYCTPT
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I agree with MZONY about all those recordings, but my favorites are....
Petrouchka:
Cleveland - Boulez
Boston - Monteux
Detroit - Dorati (Don Green playing principal)
Poem of Ecstasy:
Boston - Abbado hands down
NY Philharmonic also did a nice one with Sinopoli, I think. |
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No BS
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| That Chicago/Javri recording of "Poem" is great...but what's up with the last note? Who is holding over and what was the recording engineer thinking? |
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robert_white
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I haven't heard the CD yet, but I heard Cincinatti play "Petrouchka" on NPR a few weeks ago with Paavo Jarvi. It was really, really great! I know that the new CD came from the same performances, so it might be worth checking out. One interesting thing was that the ending was played offstage. Unorthodox, but a cool effect.
Anybody have the CD yet? |
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Mzony
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| Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2003 11:51 am Post subject: |
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Here is a decent question. The VAST majority of the above recordings (minus the two BSO picks) are of the original version of Petrouchka. Who has the best revised recording of Petrouchka?
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johntpt
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For the 1947 version of Petrouchka I like the Chicago/Levine recording from 1977 on RCA. This is very hard to find on CD. It was released in Japan in a series of recordings called "RCA RED SEAL Vintage Collection" which also included the old Boston/Leinsdorf Mahler 6. Sometimes these show up on Ebay, but I ordered mine directly from HMV Japan.
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david johnson
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i enjoy all the petrushka's i've really paid attention to...i have dutoit/montreal, monteux/bso, and stravinsky/columbia, boulez/ny (last 2 on lp)...i my collecting i differentiate between 'historic recordings' and newer ones. it's fun that way.
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robert_white
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| Actually, Mike, that new Cincinnatti recording is the '47 version. I forgot to mention that, but it's another reason that makes it worth looking into. It is weird how most of the recordings are the earlier version. |
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ZeroMan
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On 2003-06-30 13:55, robert_white wrote:
Actually, Mike, that new Cincinnatti recording is the '47 version. I forgot to mention that, but it's another reason that makes it worth looking into. It is weird how most of the recordings are the earlier version.
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I prefer the earlier version. The orchestration sounds more colorful and interesting, especially in the use of the extra harps and the 2+2 trumpet (with high trumpet) and cornet combinations. IMO, the big high brasswind solo sounds best when played on the cornet. |
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david johnson
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i just got the dutton lab reissue of the 1946 ansermet/london phil petrushka. does anyone know who does the solo work? the recording is very clear and brings out trumpet parts that aren't usually heard.
ansermet lead the world premier in 1911.
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