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brassmaster Regular Member
Joined: 21 Oct 2011 Posts: 11
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:06 pm Post subject: Asymmetric |
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Are the Asymmetric mouthpieces a gimmick or are they viable? |
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HERMOKIWI Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Dec 2008 Posts: 2599
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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They are not a gimmick but they are not a good choice as a primary mouthpiece for most players because the design (blocking much of the lower lip) tends to compromise the quality of the mid and low registers, although some players have had success with this design. There can be some peculiar control issues with this design. Much depends on your particular physiology/embouchure style. I've used this mouthpiece to demonstrate vertical placement to some students. The design could help some people produce an easier upper register but should not be expected to increase range. _________________ HERMOKIWI |
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brassmaster Regular Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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makes perfect sense. thanks! |
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ProAm Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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I have found that you pretty much have to be a 1/3, 2/3's player to use these because the design removes the lower part of the cup.
So I find them to be pieces for only a certain group of players. |
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md-jones Veteran Member
Joined: 22 Oct 2005 Posts: 298
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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I have tried these mouhpieces, and here is my take on them.
If you put the mouthpiece to your chops just like any other mouthpiece, then your bottom lip will be right on the rim, and you won't be able to play.
If you put the mouthpiece to your chops and then move it down so you are playing in the center of the cup, they work just fine. It will seem like you are playing at the top of the mouthpiece. It actually is quite comfortable, it only takes A few minutes to get the feel. I did find that playing high was a bit easier, and that bottom rim makes a great "cushion".
All this is on their website too.[/i] |
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trumpetdude590 New Member
Joined: 20 Nov 2011 Posts: 5
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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If works it works. If it does not it does not. I would not recommend it. |
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Ed Hernandez Veteran Member
Joined: 02 Dec 2010 Posts: 335 Location: Central Texas
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:02 am Post subject: |
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You may want to search previous threads on "asymetric" dated Nov., 2009 for more info. and feedback. I bought the lead piece, watched Nick's u-tube clips on it, tried it for a couple of weeks and could not make it work for me. Did not like my tone on it and my embochure suffered for it.
It's now in my MP dresser drawer along with a few others that didn't work either. _________________ "If you find a job you really like, you'll never work a day in your life".
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Ed Lee Heavyweight Member
Joined: 14 Aug 2009 Posts: 2156 Location: Jackson NC 27845
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:11 am Post subject: |
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ProAm wrote: | I have found that you pretty much have to be a 1/3, 2/3's player to use these because the design removes the lower part of the cup. So I find them to be pieces for only a certain group of players. |
I concur, and although I found my Lead 342 quite workable to get to altissimo range with a Bb, I found the outside rim edge uncomfortable. Had that edge rounded as much as possible, but although better, it still isn't satisfactory to my comfort. Don't have that much call for the altissimo now that I can't do with my picc. I am not an improv screamer! |
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jscahoy Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:15 am Post subject: |
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I use the Asymmetric 3C, and for me it's unbeatable for endurance. But it is harder to control than a standard mouthpiece. You need a good set, with less margin for error. The tone quality is just okay. Not something I would use for soloing in front of an orchestra (should such a thing ever happen!)
If you're taking lessons from anyone, most likely you wouldn't be using it for long. My old teacher would have grabbed it and tossed it in the trash. |
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SpecialK New Member
Joined: 11 Dec 2011 Posts: 7
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Man my friend used one of these in High school, just couldnt wrap my head around it. Might work for some cats but not me haha. |
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garrett901 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 07 Jan 2009 Posts: 1248 Location: Vacaville CA
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:12 am Post subject: |
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Tried it. Traded it.
It was comfortable, it did not extend or make my range better, did not like the tone it produced.
Is it worth a try? Sure, it might just be your magic MP. You'll never know unless you try. _________________ Jeff Garrett
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