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ii-V-I Regular Member
Joined: 14 Jun 2003 Posts: 14
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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Ive been in the market for a new horn, and i have always wondered about Taylor trumpets. If you own one, do you think it plays well? Not that it matters, but i am a jazz player, who also plays lead, and i dont want to get something that cant do both. |
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cujazztrpt Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 Jul 2003 Posts: 697 Location: Jacksonville,FL
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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I don't own one but had the chance to play one of these fine instruments, in my opinion they play very well in small combo settings. As far as section playing our lead plays on one and she blends well, she uses a shallower mpc for big band section work. |
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Liad Bar-EL Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Aug 2002 Posts: 1631 Location: Jerusalem
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 12:21 am Post subject: |
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For your information, Taylor trumpets come with two custom mouthpieces. One made out of silver/nickle for lead playing. The sound is certainly brighter than the standard brass mpcs.
You might also ask Andy Taylor the same concern that you have posted here.
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Jarrett Ellis Heavyweight Member
Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 649
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 2:19 am Post subject: |
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As far as a "lead" horn.. I've played on a Taylor Chicago Custom and it really didn't strike me as a lead horn... I'd say if you want versatility look at another of their models, or just elsewhere, from what I could tell however, it was a great horn for jazz combo stuff.
-Jarrett _________________ Eclipse Medium Bell Scratch Gold
Bach 37H Gold Plate
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jamesfrmphilly Heavyweight Member
Joined: 19 Oct 2002 Posts: 1376 Location: the north philadelphia ghetto
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 5:41 am Post subject: |
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ask woodwind and brasswind to send you one _________________ 1946 Martin Committee, Bach 5V |
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zackd05 New Member
Joined: 16 Mar 2004 Posts: 9
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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do they actually COME with a regular AND a nickel mpc? or do you have to buy the nickel one seperate? |
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brass2002 Veteran Member
Joined: 06 Jul 2003 Posts: 143 Location: Canada
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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I have a Taylor Chicago Custom for sale. It comes with a GR goldplated custom made mouthpiece. Send me a private message if you are interested or send it to efbadaraco@yahoo.ca _________________ Pistons:
Stomvi Master Bb, Schilke X1A & B6
Bach/Larson C, German Destino C
Monette 933 C, STC1 C & 149XL
Thein Eb/D/C 4 Valves
Thein Bb/A
Thein G
Larson GFT Eb/D
Rotaries:
Schagerl Bb D1, Schagerl C W 2001
Windisch Bb
Monke D
Scherzer Bb/A |
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camelbrass Heavyweight Member
Joined: 21 Dec 2002 Posts: 1397 Location: Dubai, UAE
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
No, they only come with one mp (usually a standard generic 3C) but you can order a silver/nickel one.
Actually Andy doesn't make any claims for his mps at all (although my one is great...it was copied from my GR at the factory). Some of the custom mp makers can make you whatever you like on a Taylor blank..GR is one that I know of.
Hope this helps.
Regards
Trevor |
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trumpetmike Heavyweight Member
Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Posts: 11315 Location: Ash (an even smaller place ), UK
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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The best way to find out about Taylor Trumpets is to ask Andy Taylor - a really nice guy how will be more than happy to discuss your individual needs.
I would imagine that he will be heading out to Denver this year (for the ITG Conference), it might be worth you holding out until then, if you are going. |
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maynard-46 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Oct 2002 Posts: 1845 Location: GEORGIA
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 4:48 am Post subject: |
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I just got to try two new Chicago "Standard" models. Excellent!!!! The newer ones have a little bit smaller bell rim diameter...5 1/4' as compared to the older versions that came through with a 5 9/16' bell. BIG difference!!! The two I tried still had that thick sound that the Taylors are known for...BUT...ALOT of extra zing/edge when you pushed it in the upper register and the sound was MUCH more centered/focused. Intonation was dead on...valves are great! Eventhough the horn is heavier than the average trumpet it's balanced so well that it's VERY comfortable to hold. Part of that is due to the placement of the valve section which is a little further towards the bell...more like a Schilke placement as opposed to a Bach or Benge where the valves are closer to your face (this has always felt uncomfortable to me). Also don't worry too much about it being a .470 bore. Due to the extra weight and a "choke" installed in the bell tail the blow is very balanced and still has the correct amount of resistance, at least for me. BTW, I always use a "normal" weight mouthpiece on every horn, including the Taylor. I tried these horns with a Warburton 6ESV top combined with either a Warburton #5 BB or a Kanstul made Schilke "C" BB. I prefered the "C". I first tried a Taylor about 2 years ago and the thing that impresses me the most is the upper register. ALL of the ones I've played have the biggest, scariest double "G/A" of any horn I've ever played! The higher you ascend the bigger the sound gets so, in my opinion, not only would this horn definitely cover a jazz gig...it wouldn't take a back seat as a lead horn, either!!! Hope this helps!!!
BW _________________ TRUMPE: YAMAHA Lacq. "Shew Gen II" / Legends .585 "CatMaster" Top / KT "TKO" BB / Reeves #5.75 Sleeve.
FLUGELHORN: ADAMS Custom "F1" / Legends .585 "CatMaster FL. |
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camelbrass Heavyweight Member
Joined: 21 Dec 2002 Posts: 1397 Location: Dubai, UAE
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 8:39 am Post subject: |
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Hi again,
Butch is correct and I should have pointed it out in the earlier post, you can play the Taylor with any mp (to me it works best if it has a bit of mass to it..my normal GRs work fine).
I actually have the newer standard with the one piece lead pipe and the smaller bell..its just such a great trumpet. I've just got home from a big band gig..I played the Kanstul and our lead player used the Taylor (he is a heck of a lot better than me). During one of the sets after a solo I heard him utter "This horn wants to play higher...that's never to happened to me before"...I think he's a convert!!
Have fun.
Regards
Trevor |
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maynard-46 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Oct 2002 Posts: 1845 Location: GEORGIA
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 11:01 am Post subject: |
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Trevor,
The piece GR did for you....was it done on an exact duplicate of Taylors' blank or was it made on GR's "Fatboy" blank? Also...how long did it take Gr to make the piece for you? I had them make me one of their stock cornet mouthpieces, stock rim, diameter, cup, BB, etc. and it took almost 4 months for them to do it! Heck...I could have switched to violin in that amount of time (and learned to play it...well)!!!
Thanks,
BW |
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camelbrass Heavyweight Member
Joined: 21 Dec 2002 Posts: 1397 Location: Dubai, UAE
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Butch,
I didn't explain myself very well. Actually Andy Taylor copied the rim and cup of my GR piece at the factory onto one of his blanks...the backbore is juts a little tighter. My stock GRs work fine in the Taylor.
On saying that, I've talked to Brian Scriver and he has told me that they can make any of their pieces on a Taylor style blank...or as an alternative use the fat boy.
Actually I'm having a custom piece made by them at the moment (a 3HC* with a #2 BB..actually to replicate the Taylor copy)...it will take 90 days.
Regards
Trevor
PS Violin eh? That's a great trick but can you make 2 flutes play in tune?..Didn't think so.
[ This Message was edited by: camelbrass on 2004-03-19 20:31 ] |
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_PhilPicc Heavyweight Member
Joined: 15 Jan 2002 Posts: 2286 Location: Clarkston, Mi. USA
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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You can if you shoot one!! _________________ Philip Satterthwaite
We cannot expect you to be with us all the time, but perhaps you could be good enough to keep in touch now and again."
- Sir Thomas Beecham to a musician during a rehearsal |
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maynard-46 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Oct 2002 Posts: 1845 Location: GEORGIA
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 7:51 am Post subject: |
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Trevor,
Thanks for the info! Hey...3-4 months practice on the violin and I could get into ANY major orchestra in the world!!!
BW _________________ TRUMPE: YAMAHA Lacq. "Shew Gen II" / Legends .585 "CatMaster" Top / KT "TKO" BB / Reeves #5.75 Sleeve.
FLUGELHORN: ADAMS Custom "F1" / Legends .585 "CatMaster FL. |
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improver Heavyweight Member
Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Posts: 1455
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 8:26 am Post subject: |
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I had a lengthy talk with Andy a few years ago. He told me how his horns are made. they are made more based on french horn where the resistance point is more at the end instead of up front like conventional trpt. they sound great dark mellow,but it strays from the conventional blw of atrpt. i owned one but sold it because it wasnt practical in every setting but the custom and chicagowere great small group horns real frenh horny. |
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