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McCat New Member
Joined: 17 Aug 2003 Posts: 6
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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Hi everyone...hope someone can help...
I've been playing exclusively on a Bb Yamaha 6335HS for the past 2 years(for all of my Bb playing), and now have to switch back to my reverse leadpipe- Bach Strad 37 since the Yamaha is no longer in my possession.
While I do like the sound, my Bach is *so* much stuffier in the upper register and I can barely get some notes to speak up there if at all when I'm tired, while on the Yamaha, I've never had an issue.
My question is...is there anything I can do to my Bach to make it more consistent throughout the registers or at least open up in the upper register? I have school auditions in a few weeks and would like to get something figured out!!
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TrumpetAdam Veteran Member
Joined: 07 Jun 2003 Posts: 111 Location: So Cal
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 12:15 am Post subject: |
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how freeblowing is that reversed leadpipe? I usually felt that Yahamas had way more back pressure. When I play them I think my head will burst. I dunno why the Bach would feel stuffier, except for maybe that reverse leadpipe. Maybe it is really dirty inside? Just play it more, play it loud, play it soft, get used to it. That is what I think. _________________ Adam Zwebti
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trumpetmike Heavyweight Member
Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Posts: 11315 Location: Ash (an even smaller place ), UK
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 12:36 am Post subject: |
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The obvious answer is for you to practice more, but I doubt that this is the answer you are looking for.
If you are into mucking about with trumpets, it might be worth you checking out the possibility of replacing the leadpipe. I have recently had a Najoom leadpipe put on my Bb, very impressive, has really opened up the upper register, as well as improving the sound, dynamic range and intonation. For the Bach trumpets I have also heard wonderful things about the Blackburn leadpipes.
Overall though, especially with audition time coming up, practising harder is probably the way forward. Lots of flexibility exercises, lots of Clarke, all the stuff you are (hopefully!) doing anyway. _________________ If we are not making music, what is the point?
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E.D.Lewis Veteran Member
Joined: 07 May 2003 Posts: 300 Location: Toronto
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 9:27 am Post subject: |
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Buy the Xeno!!
Oh, Sorry. Wrong thread....... |
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tom turner Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 Nov 2001 Posts: 6648 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 9:44 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
Since the reverse leadpipe Bachs were designed to blow freer, it sounds like you've either got a dud of a Bach or else something is wrong with it such as valve alignment, etc.
Take it by a shop and have it checked out. If it goes "bow wow," see if you can sell it or trade it for a horn that won't hold you back.
Good luck too, and I hope the "cure" isn't too expensive.
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Jagermeister Regular Member
Joined: 25 Aug 2003 Posts: 13 Location: Italy (Varese, near Milan)
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 12:40 am Post subject: |
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You must keep playing... it's the only way to get a little more from your strad-
Consider to take a new horn soon if you can't learn how to use your strad....
The only suggestion that i can give you is.... use more and more air. more air and more pressure.
Bye
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redface Heavyweight Member
Joined: 27 Dec 2001 Posts: 643 Location: England
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 2:59 am Post subject: |
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Get a Wedgwood Saturn water key fitted. It opened up my bach a treat, it made it more responsive and seemed to make all the notes even in timbre - it took out most of the dodgy notes and made the top end open (it was stuffy before). They don't cost much either.
Edit: Here's the link http://www.deniswedgwood.com/saturn.htm
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dbacon Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 8:03 am Post subject: |
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mfan Veteran Member
Joined: 06 Aug 2003 Posts: 213 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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I've know several guys that put Blackburn leadpipes on their Strads. They had the same complaints that you do and after the switch they were all much happier. Hope this helps.
-Collin
PS- Also might wanna try a good bath.
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romey1 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 5:27 am Post subject: |
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Have your teacher or a pro player play the horn and get their opinion. You may not be playing as efficiently as you can be.
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72* Regular Member
Joined: 17 Feb 2003 Posts: 59
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Yamaha horn are 1000 times more consistently made than Bachs.
The Yamaha plays very evenly throughout. They don't have that ring that a good Bach (should you find one) has.
Play on about 5-10 Strads before you chose.
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Freddieh. Veteran Member
Joined: 01 Jul 2002 Posts: 126
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 1:47 am Post subject: |
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I canīt hear that talk any longer.
Show me that bad Strad everybody is talking of.
It is the Unicorn of the trumpet world.
I have played at least hundred Bach ML and L and MLV and XL because I worked as a trumpet salesman while studying the trumpet.
And I also played about fifty Yamahas, a lot of Zs.
The Zs were so inconsistent I did not believe at first.
The Bach were all good, I am talking of 400 000 and 500 000 serials.
Some were better, but NOT ONE was bad.
The baddest lemon I met was a Conn Vintage One.
I am still playing my good old Bach from the early seventies, 49###.
But my ML from 1990 is as good, but different. |
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72* Regular Member
Joined: 17 Feb 2003 Posts: 59
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 8:08 am Post subject: |
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You obviously are a salesman and not a player. Anyone who has any knowledge whatsoever would know how inconsistently Bachs are made.
I consume my own feces for people like you.
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