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jwilson46
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 Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:05 pm Post subject: The Fate Motif Routine |
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I was looking over some old Reinhardt material and found a paper titled:
"Studies to Cover the Basics of the Pivot System" (It is in PDF format and I don't know how to convert it to text and paste here)
There are eight areas of study: Embouchure, Flexibility, Response, Sound, Compression, Tonguing, High Register Control, and Endurance. Each of these eight areas lists daily routines, such as: Buzzing, Track Routine, Putty Ball Routine, etc. There are no instructions regarding the various routines and is presumed that I should know them....which I do except for: "The Fate Motif Routine-as presented during your lesson period. REST PLENTY-THIS IS VERY STRENUOUS".
I have no recollection of it. Does anyone know what this routine is?
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Doc had two handout pages titled "Breathing Basics" and you'll see the Fate Motif as part of those. If you don't have them, send me a PM with your email address and I'll send you a PDF.
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Mark Curry
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| Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:33 am Post subject: |
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| BeboppinFool wrote: | | Doc had two handout pages titled "Breathing Basics" and you'll see the Fate Motif as part of those. If you don't have them, send me a PM with your email address and I'll send you a PDF. |
Rich, John,
I'd love to see both of these as well.
A little over two years into the Reinhardt routines-
I cannot tell you how many times the "basics" have saved my butt on a gig:)
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jwilson46
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Rich,
I know what you're talking about regarding the breathing basics. I just couldn't remember what "Fate Motif" meant.
Thanks, John |
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airdyn
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| BeboppinFool wrote: | | Doc had two handout pages titled "Breathing Basics" and you'll see the Fate Motif as part of those. If you don't have them, send me a PM with your email address and I'll send you a PDF. |
Rich,
Send me this as well. I don't remember the Fate Motif being part of Breathing Basics. I have 2 full pages of Breathing Basics that has the Timed Breathing, the Timed Breathing Pyramid and the Physical Slump.
Thanks. Dave
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| airdyn wrote: | | BeboppinFool wrote: | | Doc had two handout pages titled "Breathing Basics" and you'll see the Fate Motif as part of those. If you don't have them, send me a PM with your email address and I'll send you a PDF. |
Rich,
Send me this as well. I don't remember the Fate Motif being part of Breathing Basics. I have 2 full pages of Breathing Basics that has the Timed Breathing, the Timed Breathing Pyramid and the Physical Slump.
Thanks. Dave |
My mistake. I was rushing out of the house when I posted that. The Pyramid and the Timed Breathing use the New World Symphony excerpt. But I seem to vaguely recall that the fate motif was (in 4/4 time) a dotted half note G followed by a quarter note F# followed by a whole note A.
I'm not at home right now but I'll try to look through my Reinhardt binder tomorrow when I have a minute to come up for air.
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airdyn
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| BeboppinFool wrote: | | airdyn wrote: | | BeboppinFool wrote: | | Doc had two handout pages titled "Breathing Basics" and you'll see the Fate Motif as part of those. If you don't have them, send me a PM with your email address and I'll send you a PDF. |
Rich,
Send me this as well. I don't remember the Fate Motif being part of Breathing Basics. I have 2 full pages of Breathing Basics that has the Timed Breathing, the Timed Breathing Pyramid and the Physical Slump.
Thanks. Dave |
My mistake. I was rushing out of the house when I posted that. The Pyramid and the Timed Breathing use the New World Symphony excerpt. But I seem to vaguely recall that the fate motif was (in 4/4 time) a dotted half note G followed by a quarter note F# followed by a whole note A.
I'm not at home right now but I'll try to look through my Reinhardt binder tomorrow when I have a minute to come up for air. |
Rich,
I just sent John the Fate Motif exercise. I can send it to you if you like. I think it's based on one of Beethoven's "snippets" of motifs he used in one of his symphonies.
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| airdyn wrote: | | BeboppinFool wrote: | | airdyn wrote: | | BeboppinFool wrote: | | Doc had two handout pages titled "Breathing Basics" and you'll see the Fate Motif as part of those. If you don't have them, send me a PM with your email address and I'll send you a PDF. |
Rich,
Send me this as well. I don't remember the Fate Motif being part of Breathing Basics. I have 2 full pages of Breathing Basics that has the Timed Breathing, the Timed Breathing Pyramid and the Physical Slump.
Thanks. Dave |
My mistake. I was rushing out of the house when I posted that. The Pyramid and the Timed Breathing use the New World Symphony excerpt. But I seem to vaguely recall that the fate motif was (in 4/4 time) a dotted half note G followed by a quarter note F# followed by a whole note A.
I'm not at home right now but I'll try to look through my Reinhardt binder tomorrow when I have a minute to come up for air. |
Rich,
I just sent John the Fate Motif exercise. I can send it to you if you like. I think it's based on one of Beethoven's "snippets" of motifs he used in one of his symphonies.
Dave
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I was thinking Lizst, but we have seen how reliable my memory is.
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Dave, Rich, et al.,
Can anyone share the breathing basics or fate motif with me as well? I'm currently trying to squash the overbreathing evil. Thanks in advance. |
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airdyn
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| Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:36 am Post subject: Routines |
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| Gate wrote: | Dave, Rich, et al.,
Can anyone share the breathing basics or fate motif with me as well? I'm currently trying to squash the overbreathing evil. Thanks in advance. |
Sent. Let Scottie help you with these.
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| I am not a Reinhardtite but jeez, Fate Motif Routine sound fascinating. Could someone tell be what its about? |
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jazzbebop
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| I am interested as well. Is there any way you could put the PDF files of these in a format so we can download them ? Either on a website or however else it can be done ? If not, can you send them to me via a PM or email ? Sounds like very helpful material and it would be great to have it in the practice room ! PM me if you can. |
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