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nwtrumpet24 New Member
Joined: 09 Feb 2015 Posts: 8
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:25 pm Post subject: Charles Davis LA West Coast Review? |
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Hey all,
I am new to trumpetherald, and I need your help.
Have any of you played on a Charles Davis LA West Coast Bb horn?
Love it? Hate it?
Give me your thoughts.
My Bach Strad's tuning slide rotted out from dents and corrosion, so I am looking to trade it in and buy a new horn.
I found a Davis horn close by, but can't find much online about those horns.
Thanks for the help! |
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C.E.Divine Veteran Member
Joined: 30 Jan 2013 Posts: 285
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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A new tuning slide is cheaper than a new horn. Have you had your current trumpet checked out by a good tech? Do you like your Strad? Just because it is in poor health doesn't mean throw it away if you like it. _________________ Corey Divine
Bach LR19043B B-flat
Blackburn converted Bach C
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Matthew Anklan Heavyweight Member
Joined: 12 Jun 2007 Posts: 1085 Location: Cincinnati
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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I have not played one, but heard from VERY reliable sources that it's a good horn. Try it out, if you can, and let us know what you think. _________________ Matthew Anklan
www.matthewanklan.com
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Tony Scodwell Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Oct 2005 Posts: 1961
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:45 am Post subject: Charley Davis horns |
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As I built the prototype I can speak with some authority on Charley's horns. Our goal was to build the first horn which would be an exact duplicate of the widely used trumpets made in Hollywood and used by many great studio players. We had a 30 year old horn in perfect condition (which both of us felt was perhaps the best playing example either of us had ever played) for measurements plus new and re-produced parts that were copied from the originals. Both of us felt the "new" horn was an improvement on the original mainly due to the tolerances held in slides and valves. The prototype was then produced in small numbers by Kanstul under Charleys supervision and is now being sold by Washington Music Center (301.946.8808). Later Charley made the decision to re-create the sound of the early NYC Bach which is the horn I believe you're referring to. Charley and I displayed both our trumpets (Scodwell USA) at last years ITG in the Washington Music Center room along with Schagerl and Will Spencer's trumpets. Both models that are being produced by Charley are well worth your time to try and WMC will send both of our horns out on a seven day trial period at no obligation.
Tony Scodwell
Scodwell USA Trumpets and Flugelhorns available in the US only at Washington Music Center, call Lee Walkowich at 301.946.8808 and in Sydney, Australia at Sax and Woodwind… and Brass and in Freiburg, Germany at Musik-Bertram. |
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razeontherock Heavyweight Member
Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Posts: 10609 Location: The land of GR and Getzen
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:02 am Post subject: |
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Amazing info there Mr Scodwell! Thank you for your continued contributions to our craft ... (I think I feel myself coming down with N +1 disease |
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homebilly Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Dec 2010 Posts: 2197 Location: Venice, CA & Paris, France
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:23 am Post subject: |
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hi tony
i played that prototype and it was indeed a great horn!
it has been coined the Charleycchio
great work
ron _________________ ron meza (deadbeat jazz musician) & (TH 5 post ghost neighborhood watch ringleader)
waiting for Fed-Ex to deliver a $50 trumpet to my door. shipping was prepaid by seller of course!
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JohnSnell Veteran Member
Joined: 24 Feb 2002 Posts: 126 Location: Valencia, CA
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:21 am Post subject: |
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Charley's horns are definitely worth trying out. They have the feel of a great vintage Calicchio but with a more versatile sound.
Each of Charley's trumpets come with a Bob Reeves valve alignment so I've had the opportunity to play about a dozen of them. They have all been outstanding. _________________ John Snell
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Mike W Regular Member
Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 64 Location: Surprise, Arizona
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:01 pm Post subject: Scodwell Horns |
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I had a friend of mine in Las Vegas tell me once that he wouldn't let me play his Scodwell Bb. He said if I did, I would want to keep it. Lol...To this day I have not been able to get close to that trumpet. |
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joejudge New Member
Joined: 03 Jul 2014 Posts: 6 Location: Fonthill, Ontario
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:44 pm Post subject: Charles Davis LA West Coast Review |
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I recently bought a 1s7 in lacquer. My trip in February (2015) to Chuck Levin's store in Washington was a really good day.
I went to the store having done some research. I was confident I was going to buy either a Yamaha or a Shires. Instead, I got one of the Charles Davis trumpets. As I was busy comparing trumpets, the sales guy, Lee Walkowich, said that the store had a unique selection of really fine trumpets. I think he was gently hinting that I owed it to myself to try a few. "Yeah, okay, sure," I probably mumbled. He was right - it's always good to try as many as you can.
Later on, in the middle of a snow squall, Doc Severinsen showed up. He played a little when he arrived and just before he left. But otherwise he spent two hours answering questions and telling stories. His story about meeting Herbert Clarke hilarious. He was really happy to be there, hanging out with a room full of trumpeters. Doc thanked Lee the sales guy for having talked him into going up to Massachusetts to check out the new Shires company where he helped design his new Destino trumpet. I assume that's why he consented to have the clinic at that store.
Also: a bonus in visiting this store and taking my time was the inexpensive but really good Mexican food in the little restaurants nearby. It helped make it an even more fun visit to buy a trumpet.
Testing and choosing the trumpet: I had some sheet music with a few simple classical tunes. I picked a tune and played it on each trumpet, trying to hear the difference. I even used my cellphone to make recordings to listen to. I think Lee found this amusing, but it did help me hear things I couldn't hear as I was playing. I tried Yamaha, Shires, a few others, and a Charles Davis West Coast. The one that played the best for me was the Charles Davis.
It was a fun trip to the music store. Now that I have a good trumpet, it's more fun to practice. Any amateur trumpeter going to that store to try trumpets should check out this horn and the other quality trumpets they have. I think it's better than trying out trumpets at ITG, where you can hardly hear yourself and where too many trumpeters better than you are standing only feet away. It's a big decision; it's best to take your time in an environment where you're relaxed.
Also: if you do like the Davis trumpet, try both of them, the 1s2 and the 1s7, just to be sure you get the one that is most comfortable, both below the staff and above.
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DickieG64 Veteran Member
Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 114 Location: Weehawken, New Jersey
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 4:08 am Post subject: |
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I played the Charley Davis horns at the Tony Scodwell booth at last year's ITG. Davis's horns were very good, but I ended up buying another Scodwell. It is my third one. The other two I let friends play. They bugged me until I sold one to one of the guys. I was sorry I did that. I don't let anyone play this one. I tell them to come and visit me in Columbus in May and try them at the ITG. You can't go wrong with either.
DG _________________ Chicago Benge Large bore 1947
Monette B993
Taylor Flugelhorn
Kanstul -Charlie Davis pic prototype never produced
Conn 80A Cornet
Taylor Flugle Horn
Kanstul-Charlie Davis Prototype Piccolo-never produced
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Def Trumpet Veteran Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2008 Posts: 357 Location: MI
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:27 am Post subject: Re: Charles Davis LA West Coast Review |
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If you can post a video or a soundclip, it would be greatly appreciated! _________________ '50s Martin Committee M Bore
NY Bach Strad 42
MV Bach Strad 37
ACB 3CS
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joejudge New Member
Joined: 03 Jul 2014 Posts: 6 Location: Fonthill, Ontario
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 6:18 pm Post subject: video or soundclip |
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If you wanted a video of Doc Severinsen, I can't help with that. But I'd pay cash money to get a transcript of all the stories he told, especially the one where he met Herbert Clarke.
If you were looking for a soundclip of me playing my new Charles Davis West Coast trumpet, I doubt it would help you. To be honest, I would worry that it might damage sales of the trumpet at WMC. The sound we get comes from three things: the player, the mouthpiece, and the trumpet. My third of that equation is not the best.
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SHS_Trumpet Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Nov 2001 Posts: 1809 Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:39 am Post subject: |
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I'm really interested in hearing more about the CD horns. Is the production model the Calicchio inspired horn or the NY Bach inspired horn or are both available? Any other reviews of people that have played them would be helpful too!
Thanks
Andrew Fowler _________________ Andrew Fowler
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"90% of trumpet music is below high C" |
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joejudge New Member
Joined: 03 Jul 2014 Posts: 6 Location: Fonthill, Ontario
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 7:25 pm Post subject: East Coast horn |
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I believe the West Coast (C-inspired) is available and the East Coast (B-inspired) is soon to be available. My guess is that the East Coast horn, production or prototype, will be brought out at ITG in May. |
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Def Trumpet Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:20 am Post subject: |
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No longer listed on Chuck Levins website? Anybody know if these are going to show up for sale elsewhere? _________________ '50s Martin Committee M Bore
NY Bach Strad 42
MV Bach Strad 37
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JohnSnell Veteran Member
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Tony Scodwell Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:38 am Post subject: Charles Davis and Scodwell trumpets at WMC |
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Washington Music Center has over 7000 vendors and is in the continuing process of photographing everything for their new website. Charley's horns are on the list for sure and the Scodwell USA line-up is up and running as my horns have been sold there for a longer period.
Tony Scodwell
www.scodwellusa.com |
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NiiAkweiAdoteye New Member
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nowave Veteran Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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I'd love to try these - bet they're great.
Just noticed this text on the site:
"The #2 Leadpipe (1S-2) offers more resistance and is more suitable for high register playing. The #7 Leadpipe (1S-7) offers a freer blow with less resistance and has improved flexibility."
Isn't this backwards? I had a Calicchio 1S2 for some time and always thought the 7 leadpipe was the more resistant one. |
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CharleyD New Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 8:29 am Post subject: |
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You're right! The #2 pipe is free, the #7 pipe is a bit smaller and more resistance. Both pipes play equally well in the upper register. Both have good sounds. The more free blowing is the #9 pipe I just got the mandrel for, the #9 and showed at the ITG. Currently experimenting with Sterling Silver pipes. These horns have a better all round sound than their predecessor, they play very well in the low register as well. All the horns come with a Bob Reeves valve alignment to assure the best possible playing characteristics. I very much appreciate your interest. To try them , please contact Lee Walkowich at Chuck Levine's Washington Music. I'm sure Lee can arrange a trial.
Thanks
Charley Davis |
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