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tromba mann
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I bought this horn off e-bay for $60 plus shipping and it is in pretty good shape except the leadpipe. It has had some extensive work done on it (not very good work, I might add) and there is a patch soldered in at one of the turns.
When I play the horn, it is farily stuffy and unfocused throughout the range almost as if one of the valves was 1/5 way down.
My question is - are replacement leadpipes available out there and does this horn have any receiver issues - meaning does a standard cornet shank fit?
It's a neat little horn and I'd love to get it into playing condition, but I don't want to spend 5 or 10x what I paid to get it there. |
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BeboppinFool
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The first thing I would do is to make sure that the valves are in the correct order. I've gotten many eBay horns that had the valves out of order. Try that and get back to us.
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tromba mann
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| They are. It plays, just without any "slotting" whatsoever. I wonder if there is a gap issue in the receiver. |
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A standard cornet shank should fit (does mine, anyways). It's an old Olds, but plentiful, so I'd guess guys like Rich Ita and Wayne Tanabe might have leadpipes lying around. For that matter, a couple of years ago a guy bought a fairly decent Olds trumpet with a shot leadpipe and receiver, and then for $5 bought one with a crumpled bell but no other significant damage and swapped leadpipes (or bells -- I forget, I was still seeing green because I he got the whole deal for about $25!) As for the stuffiness, it could be a glob of solder is on the inside of the patch, blocking the pipe, or the felts are shot and so the valves are terribly misaligned, or it could just need a good cleaning!
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bent trumpet
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| I have a cornet that plays well in the upper register, but starts getting stuffy and not responsive in the low register. What would be causing that? |
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riffdawg2000
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Get Rich Ita to take a look at it since he is only up the road in Marietta ...
http://www.brassinstrumentworkshop.com
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jhatpro
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You might consider buying another Ambassador for under a hundred and marrying the best parts of both. As for leadpipe/receiver, if the horn was made before 1954, it may have the larger receiver which, of course, requires a larger mouthpiece. Mark Curry makes them. Check your horn's serial number against the list on Olds Central to be sure. (Just search Olds Central on Google and Alan Rouse's site will come up.)
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