Freddie Hubbard Equipment

cperret · Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 8:21 am Post subject:

There are plenty of sites with information on what horns a trumpet player used, what mouthpieces, etc, but I've been having trouble finding more specific details. My question is this: Does anyone out there know what albums Freddie played which horns on? Thanks.

FlugelFlyer · Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 9:48 am Post subject:

FH through the prime of his career played a Bach Mercedes II intermediate horn and the Bach 7C mouthpiece that came with it. These days, he's one of those lurkers who you never know where he is or what he's doing, but I believe he's playing a Calicchio 3-9 horn with a custom Monette mouthpiece, equivilent to a 2B I understand. Don't trust me on that though.
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adieste · Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 12:25 pm Post subject:

Just goes to show ya'...it's not the horn, it's what's behind it!
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cperret · Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 8:57 pm Post subject:

I'd still like to know if anyone out there knows which horns were on which album...

Martin · Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 10:14 pm Post subject:

Phew!

I doubt that even Hubbard himself could answer that question.

If there´s no photo on the cover, it´s impossible to tell, and even if there is one, you couldn´t say for sure wheter that really is the horn he used on that particular session.
On the earlier recordings (on Impulse, I believe) there are pictures of Freddie with his New York Bach Mercedes. On his 60s Blue Note albums, Hubbard is often pictured with his Conn 8B. On the inside cover of "First Light", he is holding a Martin Committee. I have a VSOP live album where he is pictured on stage with his Getzen flugel and what looks like a Getzen Eterna trumpet. I would guess he switched to Calicchio in the 80s.
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cperret · Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 6:33 am Post subject:

Thanks, Martin. That's as much information as I was hoping for. I was just curious and thought this would be the place to ask... cheers!

jazz_trpt · Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 5:52 am Post subject:

Note that Freddie started out as a french horn player.
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Ruechel · Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 4:13 pm Post subject:

who cares? he could have made a plastic horn sound great. BTW: just saw him at IRIDIUM in NYC a couple of months ago with a great nonet. unfortunately, it seems the rumors about his chop problems seem true: he played (or tried to play) flugel all night and could barely get a note out. it was a sad thing to see. the music was beautiful though.

deejaymushone · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:16 pm Post subject: Re: Freddie Hubbard gear

Freddie DEF remembered what gear he played on, & on what LPs. Richard Boulger studied with him, & recorded many of his lessons, & at one point Freddie told him, & RB wrote it down, & he showed me the list (I did not memorize it!). RB also studied w/ Jackie McLean & Donald Byrd, & currently teaches online & in person up in the Berkshires. You can also check out his music on YouTube, etc. - he kills.
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1965 Olds Recording

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC1993QIK7E

Didymus · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:18 pm Post subject: Zombie Thread

BTW, this thread is nearly 21 years old.
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deejaymushone · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:22 pm Post subject: Re: Zombie Thread

wohlrab · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:28 pm Post subject:

I was 8 years old when this thread was fresh

Goby · Heavyweight Member Joined: 11 Jun 2017 Posts: 652

He's pictured playing his NY Bach Mercedes on the album cover for "The Artistry of Freddie Hubbard" and some editions of "Ready for Freddie". I believe there's an Art Blakey record where he's holding a Couesnon trumpet with two underslung waterkeys. The photos from "Here to Stay" look like a very early Olds trumpet with a fully engraved bell. That horn also appears to be what he is holding in a photo with Hank Mobley, presumably at a recording session for the album "Roll Call". There are also photos from this era of him playing a Chicago Benge, French Besson, and a turn-of-the-century cornet. The liner notes for Herbie Hancock's "Empyrean Isles" lists "Freddie Hubbard: Cornet". Starting around 1964, he played a Conn 8B, which is pictured on the album cover of "First Light". He switched to Calicchio in 1974 and played some version of the 3 bell for the rest of his career, whether it was the 3/9 large bore, Copper Solo 3/9, or the 3 bell with some other leadpipe. I believe his last horn was an R3/2 ML, which currently resides in Josh Landress' shop. I've heard rumors that he briefly used a Martin Committee around the time that Bill Evans' "Interplay" was recorded, but I haven't been able to find any photos from this session to verify.

As for the mouthpiece, he is pictured with a Bach mouthpiece on "The Body and the Soul", and I've heard that it was a Bach 6 (no letter). His Calicchio mouthpiece was much different, and had a large inner diameter, a wide rim, and a shallow cup.

deejaymushone · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 7:07 pm Post subject: Re: Freddieâ€™s gear

deejaymushone · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 7:42 pm Post subject: Re: Freddie gear

Looks like an Olds Recording ?

https://flic.kr/p/2pzzpTp
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1924 Besson Rapuwano
1941 Martin HCI / 1949 Committee Deluxe
1947 Chicago Benge
Conn 1929 2B / 1924 22B / 1934 8B / 1956 10B / 1967 20A / 1958 38B / 1952 48B
1965 Olds Recording

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC1993QIK7E

spitvalve · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 7:50 pm Post subject:

In the mid-70's he also played a Getzen Eterna trumpet and 4-valve flugel before he went to Calicchio. On the cover of his "Windjammer" album he's clearly holding a Getzen Eterna.

I was also told he played a Schilke 13B mouthpiece. Can't verify that, but...
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1969 Getzen Capri cornet
1995 UMI Benge 4PSP piccolo trumpet
Warburton and Stomvi Flex mouthpieces

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deejaymushone · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 8:34 pm Post subject: Re: Freddie gear

Ronnman · Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:25 am Post subject:

From website: http://www.pierrefx.com/bm/Player_horn_combinations.htm
The trumpets Freddie Hubbard player are listed below. I generally find this site to be fairly accurate.
Ron

Trumpets:
Conn Artist 8B,
Bach Mercury,
Olds Ambassador(w/pickup),
Martin Cmmittee
Getzen,
Callichio
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jazz_trpt · Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 11:32 am Post subject:

Jumping in on this thread just because I posted in it about 21 years ago.

That is all.

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