EBAY SCAMS .... MORE EXPENSIVE!!! MONETTE?!?!?

jophst · Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 12:28 pm Post subject:

Check this out.....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2574385110

Looks familiar doesn't it. Someone has already used the "Buy Now" and I have no idea who it is cause I would seriously warn them of the scam.

This horn belongs to Richard Watson and he tried selling it a few weeks back ....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2566709707&category=16214
here is a bio on him:

http://www.majesticbrass.com/quintet_richard.htm

I hope this buyer comes to his/her senses.

Usually a private auction and selling from the UK is a giveaway of a scam.
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smokinschilke · Regular Member Joined: 15 Oct 2003 Posts: 43

Man, that is amazing. Someone should forward that info to the FBI or something.......
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jophst · Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 1:06 pm Post subject:

Sad isn't it? Not as blatant as the Zeus scams that continue to plague Ebay though.

During the first (legit) auction of this horn, I actually got an e-mail from someone from Mexico who claimed to have this horn factory sealed brand new for $2500!!!! What a knucklehead! I just laughed and said "Sure, I'll send you $2500 for it no problem ... THANKS!!!" Then I reported him to Ebay.

Guess I'll have to be more watchful how I deal with Ebay in the future.
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ARB · Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 1:13 pm Post subject:

Man, I Can-Not believe that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope they track down that slob and throw him under the PayPal jail.

I'm so glad Joshua caught this; this is just another scam we all need to be aware of. Good work
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jhaysom · Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 1:48 pm Post subject:

How do these scammers show up on ebay with such positive feedback ratings. If this means that the seller's feed back ratings have no meaning it sheds a whole new light on ebay buying1
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ARB · Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 2:28 pm Post subject:

I wouldn't be surprised if they purchased all that cheap crap just to get a good rating on his/her (I say her because it could be a woman based on the items purchased) feedback.

Has anyone contacted the buyer to let them know it's a scam???????????????????

My bad, I guess you can't contact the sell when they're listed as private.

Why does the listing say 'Free shipping within the United States'?
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Geri · Regular Member Joined: 14 Oct 2002 Posts: 78

We've also recently seen an example of people stealing ebay accounts. This is what I'd do with a stolen ebay account.

vipaje · Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 3:44 pm Post subject:

Hey everyone...I'm kinda at a loss here. I'm trying to follow the original post and of all the replies, but I'm feeling dumb....I don't understand what scam is going on?

Please enlighten me. Thanks in advance.

jophst · Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 3:54 pm Post subject:

The first link is of a Monette STC2 horn that was listed sometime today from the UK and someone has already used the buy now feature.

The 2nd link is of the original auction and is the legit one from "America"! The seller whoever he/she is stole pictures from the original acution and listed it on a bogus auction with a low "Buy Now" so somone would buy it.

I hope the buyer figures it out.
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vipaje · Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:58 pm Post subject:

Thanks Jophst. The lightbulb just went off in my head. I should've known. I guess I'm not familiar with the Ebay scams.....

bgwbold · Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 7:54 am Post subject:

I have talked to the original, legitimate, seller and the UK sale is not related to him at all, though it lifted the text from his auction.

Mike

jophst · Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 9:52 am Post subject:

I bet he was furious. I doubt someone from the UK played with the Boston Pops also ... would be a vacation more than a gig it seems!
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bgwbold · Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 9:59 am Post subject:

This was a good call. Thanks for posting the alert.

Mike

JackD · Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 10:26 am Post subject:

Can Ebay do nothing to stop this? If someone is trying to steal $3000 using their site, it seems to me that they should!

What a beautiful horn though ...

jophst · Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 10:26 am Post subject:

No problem! I'll keep my eyes peeled for others.
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trickg · Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 10:38 am Post subject:

Does anyone know of a way to inform ebay of this scam or report it to someone that can do something about it? I would hate to think that someone is getting swindled for $3000.
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fuzzyjon79 · Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 5:09 pm Post subject:

These scammers are running some pretty big operations now... I saw this on Ebay a few minutes ago... a guy from the UK... asking to "Contact Us Before Bidding"... he has 0 feedback... the auction starts at $1.00 with no reserve...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2574801071&category=38090
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heavyharmonies · Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 6:22 pm Post subject:

It 's the same [CENSORED] that's been throwing Zeus's up on Ebay 50 times a day that I (and others here) have reported a zillion times. Apparently he's branching out.

What still galls me is that the folks at Ebay are apparently too [CENSORED] stupid to know how to block a domain from registering email addresses. This guy uses the same email address every damned time he creates a new phoney account.

-Dan

hazmat · Heavyweight Member Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 669

No he doesn't use the same e-mail. Ebay doesn't let you do that. They also no longer let web-based accounts. Chances are his e-mail is at the same domain (which cannot be blocked because then they risk blocking many legit users) or he uses e-mail forwarding from new forwarding accounts.

jophst · Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 5:15 pm Post subject:

Does anyone else think these pictures look alike??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2574046477&category=41400

and

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2574331737&category=16214

Just caught that one.
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