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Trumpcyms1993
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 9:31 pm    Post subject: Trim kits Reply with quote

So I want to get a trim kit for my horn. And ive looked at a few different ones.

Mainly the Harrelson and the Curry XX caps trim kits.

Anyone have opinions on these? The harrelson one is the more expensive of the two but it claims to enhance the trumpets playability and i think the curry ones are just for looks and whatever enhancements heavy weight caps are supposed to add.

Just curious on the opinions of people who might have used them.

I mainly want them for looks honestly. the finger buttons and caps on my horn are kind of worn out looking.
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have Curry XX caps on my bach 37. I do enjoy them quite a bit. My horn slots better (which I like) and speaks better playing quietly and in lower registers.

Chances are if you get any curry caps it will effect how your horn plays. I do believe they make caps that aren't supposed to add any extra weight if you don't want to effect how the horn plays too much. Keep in mind adding bottom caps can extend the height of the horn which could possible make your trumpet not fit in it's intended case
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a trim kit from Pickett Brass that I sold a few months ago. The build quality and fitment was amazing but I DID NOT like the way the horn responded when the kit was on. It felt the horn lost much of it's flexibility, quick response, and life in the sound.

I play a Bach 72LT, so the lighter weight of the horn may have disagreed with the trim parts. A standard or heavy weight horn might respond very different but I don't have any experience with that setup.

If you're determined to get a full kit, check out Pickett Brass. I was REALLY impressed with their quality.
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The more weight you add or remove, the more you depart from the way the horn was designed to behave. I have a single Curry CCap and O-ring on the third valve of my Schilke S32. I won't do anything more to it, because I don't claim to know better than Renold Schilke, with regard to how his horn should play.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone here know a relatively cheap way to get a heavy trim kit for an Olds Ambassador 74'/73'/72'?
Thanks
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oxleyk
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pascalsjazz wrote:
Does anyone here know a relatively cheap way to get a heavy trim kit for an Olds Ambassador 74'/73'/72'?
Thanks


For what it's worth, I just tried a bottom cap from my Ambassador cornet on my Getzen Severinsen. It fits. The thread count is the same but the Olds cap is slightly larger in diameter.

Upon further testing I found that the Olds bottom caps are interchangeable with the bottom caps on my XO 1600i -- same thread and diameter. You could try XO heavy bottom caps.

If you really must experiment with adding weight you can always add a brass washer to the bottom caps or put a neoprene o-ring around the threaded end of the cylinder.

I don't know about the Ambassador trumpet but the cornet is heavy enough that you shouldn't need to add more weight.
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Brad361
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP: if you want it for appearances, as you said, ok. However.....

I’ve experimented with these too, but have always eventually gone back to the original equipment. It’s fairly harmless (except for whatever the cost might be), but as others have said, adding mass where the horn wasn’t designed to have it might very well affect how the horn responds in ways you don’t especially like. And if you’re messing around with top caps and buttons, you might also be messing around with your valve alignment.....probably not good.

If your original caps are worn looking, what about just replacing them with original equipment? Unless you have an older horn that you can’t find parts for, you might be better off.

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