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cperret Veteran Member
Joined: 08 Oct 2003 Posts: 280 Location: Toronto (Mississauga)
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 8:45 am Post subject: |
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How many players out there are making a comeback, not from a long period off, but something like an embouchure change, injury, etc? I'm a professional trumpet player who's spent the last three months relearning his embouchure (and I have at least another four or five months before I can actually play again, I think,) and I am curious to hear from others who are going through a similar change. Thanks! |
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histrumpet Heavyweight Member
Joined: 10 Nov 2001 Posts: 771 Location: Mobile, Al
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 9:58 am Post subject: |
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I have been working on an embouchure change also and am finally seeing some positive results. It has been a long process. |
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TBone Regular Member
Joined: 02 Dec 2003 Posts: 27 Location: Columbus, Ohio
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2003 4:48 am Post subject: |
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I apologize if this doesn't fit your topic criteria, but I'm always eager to throw in my story :
I'm not a professional, but I am in the middle of a change, too. I "quit" about 8 years ago when I realized that my embouchure was so terrible that I wouldn't be seeing any forward progress. Unwilling to spend the time necessary to fix it (this includes dropping out of several bands so I could go "back to the drawing board"), I just gave up.
It was a horrible mistake, and I've since started playing again - this time with a much more "textbook" embouchure. It feels great and natural, but as you can imaging, between the 8 year break and the new embouchure, I can't play well at all. I can't hit anything above a tuning C (though it was only a G a week ago), and my endurance is about 45 minutes. Tone is okay - it comes and goes - but my flexibility is great... something I never had before.
I'm trying to be realistic about this. My expectations consist of playing in my church in a year, and maybe other community bands in 2 years. I'd hope that in 5 years, I'd be able to run circles around my previous 'self'.
We'll see. _________________ I picked the trumpet back up after an 8 year "break", and boy does it feel good to have the rest of my left arm back. |
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drKmod Regular Member
Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 83 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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I laid off playing for about 15 years. When I began to read this forum I realized my major problem was my emb. I read and reread to understand what I missed the first time around and did I miss a lot. My band director may have known alot about embs but he didn't pass the info on to me. I purchased Pops Clint McLaughlin books on embs and they have really helped me. Others may do the same for you. I play easier, longer and with the range I want. Just think what a career I could've had if only I'd known this stuff earlier. Good luck.
Don _________________ Don
"Puff and magic happens"
1960 K Modified .458 Selmer Paris Trumpet
1950 Buffet Crampon American Model .470 Cornet |
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MoonBoy Regular Member
Joined: 19 Jun 2003 Posts: 89 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, it's spooky how similar my story is to TBone's except my range is a little better, G above the staff with the occasional high Bb or C. I wish I hadn't sold my Strad LR180-37GP . . .
[ This Message was edited by: MoonBoy on 2003-12-24 00:49 ]
[ This Message was edited by: MoonBoy on 2003-12-24 00:50 ] |
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BeboppinFool Donald Reinhardt Forum Moderator
Joined: 28 Dec 2001 Posts: 6437 Location: AVL|NC|USA
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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On 2003-12-15 07:48, TBone wrote:
It feels great and natural, but as you can imaging, between the 8 year break and the new embouchure, I can't play well at all. I can't hit anything above a tuning C (though it was only a G a week ago), and my endurance is about 45 minutes. Tone is okay - it comes and goes - but my flexibility is great... something I never had before.
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I went through this years ago . . . just for fun, do me a favor and try something:
Place your mouthpiece so low on your embouchure that you think it's ridiculous and try to play that way.
If you try this and it's awful, then (obviously) discard the idea. But if you find some success with it, then meet me over at the Reinhardt Forum, okay?
Merry Christmas!
Rich _________________ Puttin’ On The Ritz |
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TBone Regular Member
Joined: 02 Dec 2003 Posts: 27 Location: Columbus, Ohio
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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 11:03 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the tip BeBopp; unfortunately, I can hardly make a sound if I go any less than 1/2 top.
But, I do have good news (well, at least to me it's good news!). I'm progressing quite rapidly (relatively speaking, of course). Endurance is better - I can play about an hour and a half now. Range is a G above the staff (an octave higher from where I started), flexibility is good, tone is great, etc.
I've been doing Eddie Lewis' Daily Routines, the Caruso book, and some Irons excersises. _________________ I picked the trumpet back up after an 8 year "break", and boy does it feel good to have the rest of my left arm back. |
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