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Martin Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Nov 2001 Posts: 1168 Location: Vienna/Austria
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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Hereīs an eBay auction for a new vintage Martin Committee, said to have never been sold.
My question: If it was brand new, why did they bother to do replate it? Wouldnīt it be much more valuable in its original finish (even if the lacquer was cracked)?
Besides, with all this gold and silver, this horn looks overdressed to me. Itīs just not the right thing to do to a Committee, IMHO.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2577846978&category=16214 _________________ All the best
Martin
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elbobogrande Heavyweight Member
Joined: 12 Feb 2002 Posts: 1222 Location: Tucson, AZ
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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Wow...That's a horrible thing to do to such a horn.
John _________________ theblueone2002(AT)aol(DOT)com
"What? You mean to tell me that Rimsky and Korsakov were both named Nicolai?" |
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atom_anderson Veteran Member
Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Posts: 408 Location: Aurora, Colorado
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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A horrible thing?
That is a beautiful trumpet. Does the plating adversely affect the sound? |
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smokinschilke Regular Member
Joined: 15 Oct 2003 Posts: 43
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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Who cares what it looks like......only thing that matters is how it plays! |
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trumpetplayer87 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Jul 2002 Posts: 1746 Location: Western Massachusetts
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, that's incredible. I don't know if that's out of character for that type of horn, but I wouldn't mind having a horn that looks like that. Now if I could only get myself to sound as good as that looks.....
Bonnie _________________ "Yet to all who received Him, and believed in His name, He gave the right to become sons of God" John
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elbobogrande Heavyweight Member
Joined: 12 Feb 2002 Posts: 1222 Location: Tucson, AZ
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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On 2003-12-03 19:57, atom_anderson wrote:
A horrible thing?
That is a beautiful trumpet. Does the plating adversely affect the sound?
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Atom,
I should have elaborated on what I said. In my opinion, the older Committee horns are already beautiful in that they're not flashy, yet they're still unique among trumpets. I don't know how the plating job affects the sound (although I doubt it's drastically different), but visually, I would rather see it as it came out of the factory. It's a shame to know that a real "time capsule" of a horn was used as the starting platform for such a "hot rod." I would liken it to someone finding a yet-undriven, pristine 1960 Ferrari and pulling the body off and trying to make a Batmobile or some such.
With all that in mind, I wonder about the condition of the horn originally. The seller (who obviously knows *something* about horns) might have used the replating to cover up flaws or damage that would make the horn otherwise unsaleable.
But, in the end, I fear that this guy just "flashy-fied" the poor thing to make it look more appealing to kids and parents on ebay.
Hmm,
John _________________ theblueone2002(AT)aol(DOT)com
"What? You mean to tell me that Rimsky and Korsakov were both named Nicolai?" |
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trump_it Veteran Member
Joined: 16 Mar 2003 Posts: 319
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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If you think that's overdressed, wait til you hear about this... a RED Martin Committe with fully engraved gold plated (underneath the red) bell. Now THAT'S overdressed. It looks like one of those crappy colored horns on eBay. It plays amazingly, but no one would take the owner seriously. _________________ 2003 All-State Musician |
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_PhilPicc Heavyweight Member
Joined: 15 Jan 2002 Posts: 2286 Location: Clarkston, Mi. USA
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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If you look at "Bach Shops" horns on ebay over a period of time you will notice they go for appearince, not playable of the horn. _________________ Philip Satterthwaite
We cannot expect you to be with us all the time, but perhaps you could be good enough to keep in touch now and again."
- Sir Thomas Beecham to a musician during a rehearsal |
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supportlivejazz Heavyweight Member
Joined: 05 Jan 2003 Posts: 3757
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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Miles didn't think the red, fully engraved look was over the top...then again, I have three of the neck ties that he designed and marketed...and I LIKE 'EM and WEAR 'EM.... kpb |
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dwm1129 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 19 Feb 2002 Posts: 1065 Location: ... I'm lost
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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Miles didn't think he KNEW it was over the top, did you see what he wore durring those periods? |
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Trptbenge Heavyweight Member
Joined: 15 Feb 2002 Posts: 2390 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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Speaking of the old committees! I notice that eventhough Chris Botti bought a Monette a year or so ago he still plays his old , raw brass committee, when he is in concert or recording. If you get a good one they are great horns. I have played a couple that were horrible. I notice that Lawler is making a copy (with intonation improvements) of the Committee. I will se Bruce Lee this weekend and will play his. That should be interesting.
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jamesfrmphilly Heavyweight Member
Joined: 19 Oct 2002 Posts: 1376 Location: the north philadelphia ghetto
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2003 5:42 am Post subject: |
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they should have never replated the horn.
it makes me wonder if their cliams are true or not. _________________ 1946 Martin Committee, Bach 5V |
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JackD Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Jun 2003 Posts: 1436 Location: London, England.
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2003 8:48 am Post subject: |
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I personally think that looks really nice, and I'm not usually a fan of lavish looking trumpets.
Does seem odd that they claim it has never been sold, it does look like a replating job. |
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