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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:19 am    Post subject: Trumpet Mouthpiece Device for Sound Effect? Reply with quote

Hmmm....has anyone seen or heard of a small thin device that slips into your trumpet mouthpiece and extends into the lead pipe to create sort of a Chet Baker-like sexy sound? If so, any idea who sells these?

New one to me. :C) - Pete
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://whisper-penny.de/
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks! Never heard of it before.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always wanted to try one of those bell rings they also sell. I wonder how much difference it makes, regardless I like the aesthetic.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have sixth grade students who get a a somewhat similar sound with no help at all.๐Ÿ˜‰

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could always learn how to emulate the sound... check out players like Arve Henriksen, Jon Hassel, Nils Petter Molvaer, and Mathias Eick who play with a 'breathy' tone (I think this technique comes from trying to emulate the Shakuhachi flute rather than Chet Baker, but the manipulation of tone seems similar).
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do this when I play at low volumes. Heck, my teacher once thought my horn had a hole someplace and I have been working on getting a clear and non-airy tone at low volume for a long time. How do you guy do THAT?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brad361 wrote:
I have sixth grade students who get a a somewhat similar sound with no help at all.๐Ÿ˜‰

Brad


was thinking the same thing !

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The easiest way for me to get a breathy tone is to just keep the aperture more open than usual.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

49 Euros???? Must be solid gold.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brad361 wrote:
I have sixth grade students who get a a somewhat similar sound with no help at all.๐Ÿ˜‰

Brad

And on days when I'm really tired, I can guarantee an identical sound without the added expense!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pickles and mustard both a lot cheaper and get the same result.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dstpt wrote:
Brad361 wrote:
I have sixth grade students who get a a somewhat similar sound with no help at all.๐Ÿ˜‰

Brad

And on days when I'm really tired, I can guarantee an identical sound without the added expense!


Me too. I know itโ€™s just a matter of taste, but I never liked the sound we are talking about, and I realize that itโ€™s a specific affect for a specific style, so Chet Baker fans, donโ€™t flip out here.๐Ÿ˜‰

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cultivate the breathy sound. In fairness, I play a lot of flugelhorn. The way I sense it is as using a lot of warm air. I try to feel as if I am intentionally putting air through my embouchure that is not buzzing. Open aperature.
It is true that it doesn't translate as well on the trumpet except in specific
contexts, such as harmon mute in close mic or playing open ballads in a small room. I can't really make it work as well above the staff unless my chops are feeling really good.
As far as liking the effect or not, it is my personal sound concept. YMMV
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oljackboy wrote:
I cultivate the breathy sound. In fairness, I play a lot of flugelhorn. The way I sense it is as using a lot of warm air. I try to feel as if I am intentionally putting air through my embouchure that is not buzzing. Open aperature.
It is true that it doesn't translate as well on the trumpet except in specific
contexts, ...

I've seen/heard Arturo do this kind of thing in master classes, and I'm guessing he does this from time to time, say, on a ballad, just as Chet and others prior. I know it does not sound quite like the Whisper-Penny, but it does seem to emulate the sound that some jazz/pop/crooner singers do. The breathiness in these sounds, instrumental and vocal, I think, can be very effective. This "technique" kind of draws me into listening more...not sure why...makes it more intriguing, maybe? The W-P device seems to take it a step further and is either interpreted as a novelty that can be used and accepted on occasion, or as an annoyance. Take your pick, right?

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https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Whisper+Penny+trumpet&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

https://www.trumpetherald.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1411413
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