View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
3thanP Regular Member
Joined: 10 Jan 2019 Posts: 19 Location: Lancaster Pennsylvania
|
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:38 pm Post subject: Questions about Curry Mouthpieces |
|
|
Does anyone have any experience they can share with Curry pieces? I'm thinking about getting one as a new all around but I'm not sure what's best for me. I personally can't really play on a 3c, flatter rims don't work, so I tend to like something a little more rounded. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
TKSop Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Feb 2014 Posts: 1735 Location: UK
|
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:44 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Great quality pieces - very consistent from one example to the next.
What sort of ID do you favour?
I quite liked the Curry 1.5 which feels broad without feeling flat, doesn't feel substantially bigger than the 3-dot |
|
Back to top |
|
|
O00Joe Veteran Member
Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 364 Location: Houston & Austin, Texas
|
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:47 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I kind of feel that Curry mouthpieces are as close to "standard" as it gets outside of Bach. They are overall great mouthpieces, I recommend them as a good place to start looking at different mouthpiece brands.
What diameter do you use? The 5C has a nice sort of rounded rim with a somewhat sharp bite. I don't know how much difference it makes but you can also order one with a Bach-like blank. In my experience Currys sound a little different but I've only tried them in the default blank. _________________ 1981 Bb Bach Stradivarius 37/25 ML raw - Laskey 60C
2003 C Bach Stradivarius 239/25A L silver - Stork Vacchiano 4C25C
2006 Bb/A Schilke Piccolo P5-4 silver - Reeves A adaptor - Stork SM SP6
Akai MPC Live II
Roland JD-Xi
Casio MT-68 |
|
Back to top |
|
|
3thanP Regular Member
Joined: 10 Jan 2019 Posts: 19 Location: Lancaster Pennsylvania
|
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:00 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I purchased a used Yamaha 14a4a on eBay for around $20 just to try something new a while back and the rim is really comfortable but bottoming out is a problem since it's a lead piece. It's got a diameter of 16.68 mm |
|
Back to top |
|
|
TKSop Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Feb 2014 Posts: 1735 Location: UK
|
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:16 pm Post subject: |
|
|
3thanP wrote: | I purchased a used Yamaha 14a4a on eBay for around $20 just to try something new a while back and the rim is really comfortable but bottoming out is a problem since it's a lead piece. It's got a diameter of 16.68 mm |
Rule #1 of shopping for mouthpieces across different brands - DO NOT trust manufacturers stated diameters unquestioningly.
It's not that they're inaccurate necessarily (though some are), but certain brands measure in different places to each other and at any rate the rim shape, bite and cup shape will all affect your perception of size on top of that.
What pieces have you had success with previously?
And why are you not using them now? |
|
Back to top |
|
|
3thanP Regular Member
Joined: 10 Jan 2019 Posts: 19 Location: Lancaster Pennsylvania
|
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:23 pm Post subject: |
|
|
TKSop wrote: | 3thanP wrote: | I purchased a used Yamaha 14a4a on eBay for around $20 just to try something new a while back and the rim is really comfortable but bottoming out is a problem since it's a lead piece. It's got a diameter of 16.68 mm |
Rule #1 of shopping for mouthpieces across different brands - DO NOT trust manufacturers stated diameters unquestioningly.
It's not that they're inaccurate necessarily (though some are), but certain brands measure in different places to each other and at any rate the rim shape, bite and cup shape will all affect your perception of size on top of that.
What pieces have you had success with previously?
And why are you not using them now? |
I originally started out on the standard 7c and then eventually bought a 3c to try out, but I suppose getting my braces off and my lips changing limited my ability with the 3c. I switched back to a 7c just because the 3c wasn't doing it for me anymore. I'm a highschool trumpet player as well, no advanced professional by any means. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
TKSop Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Feb 2014 Posts: 1735 Location: UK
|
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:33 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Is there anything wrong with your 7c that you're looking to rectify or are you just curious to try something different? |
|
Back to top |
|
|
3thanP Regular Member
Joined: 10 Jan 2019 Posts: 19 Location: Lancaster Pennsylvania
|
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:36 pm Post subject: |
|
|
TKSop wrote: | Is there anything wrong with your 7c that you're looking to rectify or are you just curious to try something different? |
I'm just looking to branch out into something different to hone my skills on rather than my standard 7c |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Geodude Heavyweight Member
Joined: 01 May 2006 Posts: 588 Location: Chicago 'burbs
|
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:08 pm Post subject: |
|
|
What does your teacher suggest? He/she likely has a few that you could test. Don’t have a teacher? You might consider spending your $$ on lessons rather than new hardware. I know, well directed practice isn’t as much fun as shopping but your chances of finding the silver bullet are not good. You are likely still at the stage where your biggest gains will come from hard work not hardware. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
3thanP Regular Member
Joined: 10 Jan 2019 Posts: 19 Location: Lancaster Pennsylvania
|
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:25 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Geodude wrote: | What does your teacher suggest? He/she likely has a few that you could test. Don’t have a teacher? You might consider spending your $$ on lessons rather than new hardware. I know, well directed practice isn’t as much fun as shopping but your chances of finding the silver bullet are not good. You are likely still at the stage where your biggest gains will come from hard work not hardware. |
You're 100% right in all those respects |
|
Back to top |
|
|
zaferis Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Nov 2011 Posts: 2331 Location: Beavercreek, OH
|
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:41 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Curry mouthpieces are quite nice... very consistent, and not very expensive. Beyond being well balanced, between comfort, sound, articulation, etc. I really enjoy that with every rim in a series (I play on the 3 rims) they "feel' the same on the chops. As an example: a Yamaha 14B4 (which I played for years) feels different than a 14C4 or 14a4a.
And as much as I'm a Bach trumpet fan, endorsing artist and all. I can say not so much with the mouthpieces. The 3C which is a solid mouthpiece and used by many (including myself for a long time) - I find to be a bit stuffy up top. and the 1.5 C that I go to for that full on legit trumpet sound is also not great on the high end, especially away from the serious legit stuff. Even in concert bands I found it to lack something..
I think you'd find a Curry 3C to feel a touch larger, and have a slighlty softer bite - but provide you with a very consistent sound and resistnance througout your range. With the added bonus of know that if you wanted something deeper or shallower, you'd be getting the same rim shape.
Curry 3C is my every day piece, 3C with a 25 throat for my CL, 3 Star for commercial work, 3DE or 3P on my picc... etc... I find them all "hot swappable" going from one to the other freely and comfortably.
I will also 2nd the thought of "what does YOUR teacher say?"
Find a way of experimenting with a variety of pieces to find YOUR fit. I do this often with student - I'll bring my box of mouthpieces (many brands & sizes) and let them try without guidance or knowledge of what they're playing - Interestly, studenst gravitate toward 3 or 4 mouthpieces. _________________ Freelance Performer/Educator
Adjunct Professor
Bach Trumpet Endorsing Artist
Retired Air Force Bandsman |
|
Back to top |
|
|
JayKosta Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Dec 2018 Posts: 3306 Location: Endwell NY USA
|
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:06 pm Post subject: |
|
|
An important consideration is whether you can develop the necessary endurance with a mouthpiece. And a part of that is whether it 'fits' your teeth and lips so it can be played for an extended period - and remains sounding good.
Ask your school band director about how you sound. e.g. Do you have a good 'clean' sound? Are you able to articulate fast passages? Do you have trouble 'hitting the right note' on entrances, etc.
If you are good from the view of the director, and the 7c is comfortable, then I won't expect a different mouthpiece to make a worthwhile difference now. If you do find a real problem that is caused by the mouthpiece, then that's another story.
The Bach 7c is widely used because it WORKS for lots of players.
Jay _________________ Most Important Note ? - the next one !
KNOW (see) what the next note is BEFORE you have to play it.
PLAY the next note 'on time' and 'in rhythm'.
Oh ya, watch the conductor - they set what is 'on time'. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Richard III Heavyweight Member
Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 2655 Location: Anacortes, WA
|
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:38 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Here's a recommendation for a "Curry-like" mouthpiece, Flip Oakes. Similar feel but a different take on the concept. Plus, unlike Curry, you can call Flip and ask questions. He will steer you in a good direction. And they are inexpensive. _________________ Richard
King 1130 Flugabone
King 12C mouthpiece |
|
Back to top |
|
|
John Mohan Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Nov 2001 Posts: 9830 Location: Chicago, Illinois
|
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:02 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I'm curious if we're ever going to see a sixth post from the OP. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
3thanP Regular Member
Joined: 10 Jan 2019 Posts: 19 Location: Lancaster Pennsylvania
|
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:11 pm Post subject: |
|
|
John Mohan wrote: | I'm curious if we're ever going to see a sixth post from the OP. |
Coincidentally I'm at my schools orchestra concert right now |
|
Back to top |
|
|
etc-etc Heavyweight Member
Joined: 19 Jan 2008 Posts: 6187
|
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:44 pm Post subject: |
|
|
John Mohan wrote: | I'm curious if we're ever going to see a sixth post from the OP. |
Yes it would be enough to post five. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
O00Joe Veteran Member
Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 364 Location: Houston & Austin, Texas
|
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:54 am Post subject: |
|
|
I don't know how the Curry 7 rim is but it sounds like a Curry 5C or 7C is what you're looking for. (Yamaha 14 is around a Bach/Curry 5, Bach 7 and Curry 7 should have matching diameter as well.) _________________ 1981 Bb Bach Stradivarius 37/25 ML raw - Laskey 60C
2003 C Bach Stradivarius 239/25A L silver - Stork Vacchiano 4C25C
2006 Bb/A Schilke Piccolo P5-4 silver - Reeves A adaptor - Stork SM SP6
Akai MPC Live II
Roland JD-Xi
Casio MT-68 |
|
Back to top |
|
|
iiipopes Heavyweight Member
Joined: 29 Jun 2015 Posts: 555
|
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:58 pm Post subject: |
|
|
O00Joe wrote: | I don't know how the Curry 7 rim is but it sounds like a Curry 5C or 7C is what you're looking for. (Yamaha 14 is around a Bach/Curry 5, Bach 7 and Curry 7 should have matching diameter as well.) |
Not so sure about the Bach due to their notoriety of lack of consistency. _________________ King Super 20 Trumpet; Sov 921 Cornet
Bach cornet modded to be a 181L clone
Couesnon Flugelhorn and C trumpet |
|
Back to top |
|
|
3thanP Regular Member
Joined: 10 Jan 2019 Posts: 19 Location: Lancaster Pennsylvania
|
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:05 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Really appreciate everyone's help with this! |
|
Back to top |
|
|
O00Joe Veteran Member
Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 364 Location: Houston & Austin, Texas
|
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:57 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Well in *theory* Bach and Curry's rims sizes should match in diameter and feel. Currys are based off Bach Mt. Vernon. _________________ 1981 Bb Bach Stradivarius 37/25 ML raw - Laskey 60C
2003 C Bach Stradivarius 239/25A L silver - Stork Vacchiano 4C25C
2006 Bb/A Schilke Piccolo P5-4 silver - Reeves A adaptor - Stork SM SP6
Akai MPC Live II
Roland JD-Xi
Casio MT-68 |
|
Back to top |
|
|
|