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mrhappy Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:33 pm Post subject: Clear Nail Polish for Protection? |
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So I have this Courtois Flugelhorn from the late 30's that has a few area's where the finish has worn through to the brass ... someone recommended that I put some clear nail polish on those areas to add a layer of protection. Does this sound like a good idea? Doesn't seem like it would cause any problems. Does anyone do this or have an alternate idea/method?
Thanks _________________ MH |
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tptptp Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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Not for that exactly, but worse.
I have a grandson who started trumpet recently. I had an old run-down Blessing trumpet which had been in the closet for 20 years. The leadpipe had red rot and a 3” long crack. Played terrible, of course. I spread clear nail polish over the crack, let it dry, and it played great!
I have since bought him a better horn.
Nail polish is a pretty good sealant! _________________ Craig Mitchell |
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mrhappy Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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Holy Cow!! I'm hitting the store first thing in the morning!! _________________ MH |
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Bill Ortiz Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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It works great in that regard-brass guru Dick Akright hipped me to that. He advised me to use clear nail polish on areas that the lacquer had worn away (contact points) to protect the exposed brass. _________________ '56 Martin Committee Deluxe #2 trumpet
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mrhappy Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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Bill Ortiz wrote: | It works great in that regard-brass guru Dick Akright hipped me to that. He advised me to use clear nail polish on areas that the lacquer had worn away (contact points) to protect the exposed brass. |
Sounds good... I'm IN!! _________________ MH |
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Ed Kennedy Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:28 am Post subject: |
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Good old school fix. Recommend Sally Hanson's "Hard as Nails." |
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trpthrld Heavyweight Member
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Irving Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:52 am Post subject: |
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Clear nail polish is a good temporary covering for spots where the lacquer has worn off. The problem is that the edges start to turn green. There is probably a way of treating the raw brass before putting nail polish on it. Maybe treating it with acetone, which can also be used to remove nail polish. One of the chemists here might know of a solution. |
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JayKosta Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:57 am Post subject: |
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I use clear thick plastic tape - it's sold in auto parts stores to cover cracks in tail lights, etc.
First clean the horn, then cut to a suitable size with rounded corners and apply.
And NO, a small patch won't change the sound to any noticeable amount. I placed such a patch on the bottom of the bell, just forward of the 3rd valve because the lacquer had worn thru and the raw brass always made a stain on my LH index finger. Problem fixed, and no change in sound.
If you want to remove the tape, just heat it slightly with a hair dryer to soften the adhesive.
Jay _________________ Most Important Note ? - the next one !
KNOW (see) what the next note is BEFORE you have to play it.
PLAY the next note 'on time' and 'in rhythm'.
Oh ya, watch the conductor - they set what is 'on time'. |
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mrhappy Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:06 am Post subject: |
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Ed Kennedy wrote: | Good old school fix. Recommend Sally Hanson's "Hard as Nails." |
Haha! I should have known it would break down to certain brands and I'll TAKE that recommendation!! _________________ MH |
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mrhappy Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:08 am Post subject: |
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trpthrld wrote: |
It works great but a word of caution - let it dry completely...as in if you think it's dry, let it dry longer - before putting it back in any case or gig bag. Any undried polish will attach itself to case lining. |
GREAT tip thanks!! Of coarse that could lead to a 'warm and fuzzy' tone! _________________ MH |
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mrhappy Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:12 am Post subject: |
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Irving wrote: | The problem is that the edges start to turn green. There is probably a way of treating the raw brass before putting nail polish on it. |
I guess 'going green' isn't always a good thing! I'll investigate/ clean it up beforehand. Thanks. _________________ MH |
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mrhappy Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:16 am Post subject: |
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JayKosta wrote: | I use clear thick plastic tape |
Didn't think of any type of tape but I COULD also make a stylistic statement with all the different types and colors out there. I'll have to take a look through Auto Zone! _________________ MH |
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adagiotrumpet Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:56 am Post subject: |
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Irving wrote: | Clear nail polish is a good temporary covering for spots where the lacquer has worn off. The problem is that the edges start to turn green. There is probably a way of treating the raw brass before putting nail polish on it. Maybe treating it with acetone, which can also be used to remove nail polish. One of the chemists here might know of a solution. |
Don't use acetone, which is the key ingredient in lacquer thinner. It could soften and damage the surrounding lacquer on the horn. I would use isopropyl alcohol to clean the spot before applying nail polish. |
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mrhappy Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:38 am Post subject: |
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adagiotrumpet wrote: | Irving wrote: | Clear nail polish is a good temporary covering for spots where the lacquer has worn off. The problem is that the edges start to turn green. There is probably a way of treating the raw brass before putting nail polish on it. Maybe treating it with acetone, which can also be used to remove nail polish. One of the chemists here might know of a solution. |
Don't use acetone, which is the key ingredient in lacquer thinner. It could soften and damage the surrounding lacquer on the horn. I would use isopropyl alcohol to clean the spot before applying nail polish. |
Whew... not a moment too soon!! Thanks for the tip! _________________ MH |
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so what Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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Nail polish is remarkably expensive, I've found. There must be a cheaper source for clear lacquer. Does anyone have any tips on this ? |
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SilverSpunk Regular Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 5:46 am Post subject: |
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so what wrote: | Nail polish is remarkably expensive, I've found. There must be a cheaper source for clear lacquer. Does anyone have any tips on this ? |
I've mentioned this on my other thread about pitting but why not just get a can of Renaissance Wax and apply them to the areas of concern if you're not trying to seal a crack or a hole? It is a thin coat but still a layer of protection, people use it on raw brass instruments often when they want to preserve the current patina on the horn. |
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