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feedback@stomvi-usa Veteran Member
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bear30101 Regular Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:09 am Post subject: |
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Wow!
Please Sir, may we have some more? _________________ searching |
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veery715 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:00 am Post subject: |
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I believe it was the same gentleman who demonstrated a full scale without any fingerings. _________________ veery715
Hear me sing!: https://youtu.be/vtJ14MV64WY
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LSOfanboy Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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Absolutely amazing playing!!
Love seeing videos like this.
All the best |
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cgaiii Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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Very interesting. Thanks for posting, would love to see a little more. _________________ Bb: Schilke X3L AS SP, Yamaha YTR-6335S
C: Schilke CXL, Kanstul 1510-2
Picc: Kanstul 920
Bb Bugle: Kanstul
Bb Pocket: Manchester Brass
Flugel: Taylor Standard
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Trumpetingbynurture Heavyweight Member
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JoseLindE4 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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What a great player.
His leadpipe approach seems similar in conception to Ghitalla. I haven't watched all of the videos. Does he have any connection to Ghitalla? |
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Robert P Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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Wondering about that big smile stretch he does for the highest notes. Is he able to pick off notes and sustain them ala lead playing like that? _________________ Getzen Eterna Severinsen
King Silver Flair
Besson 1000
Bundy
Chinese C
Getzen Eterna Bb/A piccolo
Chinese Rotary Bb/A piccolo
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Trumpetingbynurture Heavyweight Member
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LSOfanboy Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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Robert P wrote: | Wondering about that big smile stretch he does for the highest notes. Is he able to pick off notes and sustain them ala lead playing like that? |
Yes- Stomvi also put up another clip of a fanfare for 5 trumpets (recorded by 3 players). Javier picks out a mad double C at the end in exactly the way you describe |
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vwag Veteran Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:00 am Post subject: |
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That is unbelievably hard. |
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John Mohan Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:29 am Post subject: |
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About as impressive as it gets! Wow!!!!!!!!! |
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oxleyk Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:46 am Post subject: |
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vwag wrote: | That is unbelievably hard. |
I'm convinced that Javier is not human but a strange visitor from another planet who came to earth with powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal men. |
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cjl Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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feedback@stomvi-usa wrote: | Take a look at Javier Gonzales and what his lead pipe method has enabled him to achieve. |
Has his leadpipe method enabled him to do this or does his ability enable him to do his leadpipe method?
This is an honest question; my intent is not to cast any aspersions at all -- he is clearly a phenomenal artist.
Specifically -- why is forcing the leadpipe to behave outside its acoustical boundaries a good exercise? Same question with the trumpet - what benefit is it to play a scale without fingerings?
Do you gain embouchure strength by forcing the instrument/leadpipe outside its natural, acoustical boundaries?
I will also readily admit that: I have only watched the first video so perhaps I need to view the others; after 40 yrs of playing, I barely have a Arban-book range myself.
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HERMOKIWI Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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cjl wrote: | feedback@stomvi-usa wrote: | Take a look at Javier Gonzales and what his lead pipe method has enabled him to achieve. |
Has his leadpipe method enabled him to do this or does his ability enable him to do his leadpipe method?
This is an honest question; my intent is not to cast any aspersions at all -- he is clearly a phenomenal artist.
Specifically -- why is forcing the leadpipe to behave outside its acoustical boundaries a good exercise? Same question with the trumpet - what benefit is it to play a scale without fingerings?
Do you gain embouchure strength by forcing the instrument/leadpipe outside its natural, acoustical boundaries?
I will also readily admit that: I have only watched the first video so perhaps I need to view the others; after 40 yrs of playing, I barely have a Arban-book range myself.
-- Joe |
What's going on here is not so much range development as it is getting in touch with your embouchure. How many players are 100% conscious of what their embouchure is doing and what it feels like 100% of the time? I can see that these exercises make you consciously connect with your embouchure and what it feels like so that you can learn to focus on that in all ranges of the instrument.
Most of us just blow into the instrument and when it works we really don't pay much attention to the details of how it feels when it works. Here the player is consciously overcoming natural harmonics and training his embouchure to do the things the player wants his embouchure to do and, further, is training himself to be 100% conscious of what it feels like to achieve that goal. Instead of "the tail wagging the dog" this player is aware of what it feels like for the "dog to wag the tail."
This is an outstanding lesson in embouchure control and how it can be trained and utilized to control results. Genuinely brilliant. _________________ HERMOKIWI |
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Trumpetingbynurture Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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cjl wrote: | feedback@stomvi-usa wrote: | Take a look at Javier Gonzales and what his lead pipe method has enabled him to achieve. |
Has his leadpipe method enabled him to do this or does his ability enable him to do his leadpipe method?
This is an honest question; my intent is not to cast any aspersions at all -- he is clearly a phenomenal artist.
Specifically -- why is forcing the leadpipe to behave outside its acoustical boundaries a good exercise? Same question with the trumpet - what benefit is it to play a scale without fingerings?
Do you gain embouchure strength by forcing the instrument/leadpipe outside its natural, acoustical boundaries?
I will also readily admit that: I have only watched the first video so perhaps I need to view the others; after 40 yrs of playing, I barely have a Arban-book range myself.
-- Joe |
He did say in the interview with Jon Ruff that it added an octave to his range and that he could do it initially. |
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cjl Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 11:37 am Post subject: |
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HERMOKIWI wrote: | What's going on here is not so much range development as it is getting in touch with your embouchure. How many players are 100% conscious of what their embouchure is doing and what it feels like 100% of the time? I can see that these exercises make you consciously connect with your embouchure and what it feels like so that you can learn to focus on that in all ranges of the instrument.
Most of us just blow into the instrument and when it works we really don't pay much attention to the details of how it feels when it works. Here the player is consciously overcoming natural harmonics and training his embouchure to do the things the player wants his embouchure to do and, further, is training himself to be 100% conscious of what it feels like to achieve that goal. Instead of "the tail wagging the dog" this player is aware of what it feels like for the "dog to wag the tail."
This is an outstanding lesson in embouchure control and how it can be trained and utilized to control results. Genuinely brilliant. |
That's a great reply and I really appreciate it. Major food for thought.
Thanks!
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Trompette111 Regular Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:56 am Post subject: |
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Wow! Is so good I almost not believe. There is nothing he can not play! |
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x9ret Heavyweight Member
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Rowan33 New Member
Joined: 28 May 2019 Posts: 8 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:51 pm Post subject: Re: Leadpipe method with 5 octave result |
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This lead pipe method has helped me lots. I started regular middle range with my private teacher. I then use this tips and has helped with resonance and range. Very smart guy. _________________ -Rowan Peters |
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