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jhatpro Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Mar 2002 Posts: 10204 Location: The Land Beyond O'Hare
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:33 am Post subject: |
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Class of ‘95. _________________ Jim Hatfield
"The notes are there - find them.” Mingus
2021 Martinus Geelan Custom
2005 Bach 180-72R
1965 Getzen Eterna Severinsen
1946 Conn Victor
1998 Scodwell flugel
1986 Bach 181 cornet
1954 Conn 80A cornet
2002 Getzen bugle |
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Croquethed Heavyweight Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2013 Posts: 614 Location: Oakville, CT
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:38 am Post subject: |
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They run a special program every year in which local folks can sign up to be "plebes for a day" to help the seniors in charge of Cadet Basic get ready to be drillmasters. I did it once while I was researching a story.
One day of being a Plebe was enough for me. Props to your son.
I was working up in the Syracuse area by the time he got there but I did cover a Colgate game at Michie Stadium he likely suited up for in '93. No better place for college football in the country. |
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jhatpro Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Mar 2002 Posts: 10204 Location: The Land Beyond O'Hare
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:44 am Post subject: |
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We loved tailgating there! Terrific bands, too. I remember donating a big band chart, Revenge of the Cow, which of course is a reference to what West Pointers call juniors. _________________ Jim Hatfield
"The notes are there - find them.” Mingus
2021 Martinus Geelan Custom
2005 Bach 180-72R
1965 Getzen Eterna Severinsen
1946 Conn Victor
1998 Scodwell flugel
1986 Bach 181 cornet
1954 Conn 80A cornet
2002 Getzen bugle |
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jhatpro Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Mar 2002 Posts: 10204 Location: The Land Beyond O'Hare
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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:11 am Post subject: |
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He picked the silver one!
https://jimhatfieldpix.smugmug.com/Bens-Horn _________________ Jim Hatfield
"The notes are there - find them.” Mingus
2021 Martinus Geelan Custom
2005 Bach 180-72R
1965 Getzen Eterna Severinsen
1946 Conn Victor
1998 Scodwell flugel
1986 Bach 181 cornet
1954 Conn 80A cornet
2002 Getzen bugle |
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spitvalve Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 Mar 2002 Posts: 2158 Location: Little Elm, TX
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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:23 am Post subject: |
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Grandpa the hero!
I play-tested some of those Conn Severinsen horns back in the '80s when I was teaching. I was very impressed. They felt like kind of a hybrid between a free-blowing Strad and the old Severinsen Getzen. I didn't hesitate to recommend them to my students (or their parents).
So are you going to add the lacquered one to your arsenal? _________________ Bryan Fields
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1991 Bach LR180 ML 37S
1999 Getzen Eterna 700S
1977 Getzen Eterna 895S Flugelhorn
1969 Getzen Capri cornet
1995 UMI Benge 4PSP piccolo trumpet
Warburton and Stomvi Flex mouthpieces |
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jhatpro Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Mar 2002 Posts: 10204 Location: The Land Beyond O'Hare
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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:44 am Post subject: |
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Thanks, Bryan!
I'm offering the lacquer one for what I paid for it to a guy in one of the big bands I play in. His current horn is a beater and he needs something better but he's on a tight budget.
It will be a great upgrade for him (and help the section, too!) _________________ Jim Hatfield
"The notes are there - find them.” Mingus
2021 Martinus Geelan Custom
2005 Bach 180-72R
1965 Getzen Eterna Severinsen
1946 Conn Victor
1998 Scodwell flugel
1986 Bach 181 cornet
1954 Conn 80A cornet
2002 Getzen bugle |
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zaferis Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Nov 2011 Posts: 2330 Location: Beavercreek, OH
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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:51 am Post subject: |
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Don't buy.. rent. Find out who supplies the rentals for his school and set him up with a beginner model.. Then it comes with maintenance, lubes, etc. Let him learn on an instrument that can handle a beginner. It will get dropped, bounced, have something fall on in and won't get oiled or greased for months at a time..
Then as he matures and improves (early H.S.) give him the Bach or other "pro" horn _________________ Freelance Performer/Educator
Adjunct Professor
Bach Trumpet Endorsing Artist
Retired Air Force Bandsman |
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jhatpro Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Mar 2002 Posts: 10204 Location: The Land Beyond O'Hare
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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:41 am Post subject: |
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Excellent advice for most parents/grandparents, especially those with little or no knowledge of trumpets and trumpet playing.
In my case,howeve, I wanted to become more involved. Ben lives in California and I don't see him as often as I'd like so I wanted to do something more personal than suggesting his parents rent a horn.
Also, I really enjoyed finding a good used horn for him and setting him up with mouthpiece, cleaning supplies, straight mute, beginning book. Just seeing the look on his face when he picked the horn up for the first time was priceless! _________________ Jim Hatfield
"The notes are there - find them.” Mingus
2021 Martinus Geelan Custom
2005 Bach 180-72R
1965 Getzen Eterna Severinsen
1946 Conn Victor
1998 Scodwell flugel
1986 Bach 181 cornet
1954 Conn 80A cornet
2002 Getzen bugle |
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jhatpro Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Mar 2002 Posts: 10204 Location: The Land Beyond O'Hare
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Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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Got a sweet card from my grandson today. Sounds like he's off to a good start!
https://jimhatfieldpix.smugmug.com/Bens-Horn _________________ Jim Hatfield
"The notes are there - find them.” Mingus
2021 Martinus Geelan Custom
2005 Bach 180-72R
1965 Getzen Eterna Severinsen
1946 Conn Victor
1998 Scodwell flugel
1986 Bach 181 cornet
1954 Conn 80A cornet
2002 Getzen bugle |
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giakara Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 3832 Location: Greece
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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 4:07 am Post subject: |
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The best grandpa of the world !!! well done.
Yesterday I replace the old 7C of my son with a brand new Reeves 43D , you have to see his face , it was the happiest teenager of the world , plus his sound is bigger , it dont miss notes and have improve his range.
Regards _________________ Lawler TL5-1A Bb 2015
Lawler TL6-1A Bb 2004
Lawler TL5-1A Bb 2003
Getzen eterna 910 C
Getzen eterna 850 cornet
Selmer Paris 3 valve picc
Yamaha 731 flugel
Carol mini pocket
Reeves/Purviance mpcs |
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Croquethed Heavyweight Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2013 Posts: 614 Location: Oakville, CT
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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 5:21 am Post subject: |
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He cleans it every day! No red rot! |
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Big C Regular Member
Joined: 30 Jun 2018 Posts: 53 Location: Bay Area
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Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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jhatpro has solved his dilemma, but that's not going to stop me from reflecting on my first year on trumpet, in 4th grade, 50 yrs ago...
This was in an up-scale community. We all started out with school instruments. Everybody was DEFINITELY checking out what horns their peers got, but there were only two considerations: Was the horn shiny and fairly new looking (the case, too) and did the valves work okay.
I'm headed on a rant now, but we live in a new age of affluence. When I went through school, nobody had a top-quality horn until one guy got one in the 10th grade. By my senior year, still only 2-3 guys had them. It wasn't until college that I was able to use some insurance settlement money to buy a Getzen.
If somebody has a nice horn lying around and wants to let a kid use it (or own it), I certainly have no problem with that, but unless the kid is really serious about music, I don't get why a parent would BUY a pro-quality horn for some kid that doesn't appreciate it and can't take advantage of it... and yet I see this happen a lot. What kind of message does that send?
Also, get off of my lawn. |
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LittleRusty Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 12664 Location: Gardena, Ca
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Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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On the other side of the coin, I don’t see why a parent stick their child with a substandard horn if they can afford a good one and believe their child will take care of it.
I got a new Bach Strad as a freshman in high school in ‘72. Used it in stage band, concert and marching band in high school. Not a mark on it.
Oddly enough it wasn’t until I was in college in the TV studio waiting to go on live when I dropped it bell down on concrete.
My son got one to use at home and for concerts at about the same age. His daily horn for school was an Eterna in good shape. |
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jhatpro Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Mar 2002 Posts: 10204 Location: The Land Beyond O'Hare
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Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:44 am Post subject: |
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We’re visiting our grandson and his fam in California and I brought along a horn so I could give him a few tips before his first band rehearsal next week.
We worked on buzzing a soft low C together and then did some tone matching on our horns. And I told him my best advice is to always listen - listen to his sound, to the rest of the band, to the director, and to as many good trumpet players as he can find on iTunes and YouTube.
And, course, I told him to have fun!
(Oh, to be 12 again!) _________________ Jim Hatfield
"The notes are there - find them.” Mingus
2021 Martinus Geelan Custom
2005 Bach 180-72R
1965 Getzen Eterna Severinsen
1946 Conn Victor
1998 Scodwell flugel
1986 Bach 181 cornet
1954 Conn 80A cornet
2002 Getzen bugle |
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tptptp Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Oct 2001 Posts: 1409 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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I’ve had a lot of fun playing along with my grandson in Charlotte. I just wish we lived closer together. _________________ Craig Mitchell |
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