Slide Trumpet

DJtpt31 · Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:36 am Post subject: Slide Trumpet

Does anyone own a slide trumpet, if so, what brand of slide trumpet? What are some of the ways you use the slide trumpet? Has it been used in a performance situation?
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JayKosta · Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:43 am Post subject:

A friend of mine has one - uses it occasionally for 'suitable' solos - e.g. dixieland.
I view it as a 'novelty instrument', and easy to over-do its usage ...
Getting good group intonation can be a problem.bv

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mm55 · Heavyweight Member Joined: 01 Jul 2013 Posts: 1415

I have a Jupiter JST-314. I use my regular trumpet mouthpiece; Curry 3C. I sometimes use it for a blues solo. Not at a gig.

I would love to try two slide trumpets for Kachaturian's Sabre Dance. It might work, and if not, it might be hilarious.
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kehaulani · Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:29 am Post subject:

Ref. its being a novelty instrument . . or not . . check out Steven Bernstein. http://www.stevenbernstein.net/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n0TZJFilG8
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Bloo42 · Regular Member Joined: 23 Oct 2018 Posts: 35

Slide trumpet is an entirely different instrument. It's an old baroque thing, and the predecessor to the Sackbut.

The instrument referred to in this thread would be a Soprano Trombone. Anybody to call it a slide trumpet would be incorrect.

DJtpt31 · Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:45 pm Post subject:

kehaulani · Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:50 pm Post subject:

Is what the O.P is asking?
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DJtpt31 · Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:06 pm Post subject:

Tpt_Guy · Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:27 pm Post subject:

Wycliffe Gordon

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sTy-NeVaUL4
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DH · Veteran Member Joined: 17 May 2006 Posts: 495

This is looking at a slide trumpet as a "piccolo trombone" so to speak and not the English Slide trumpet or Baroque slide trumpet.

I have an old record of Moravian brass music and the slide trumpet is played by Malcolm McNab, and like every thing else he does, the playing is excellent.

Tpt_Guy · Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:26 pm Post subject:

This is a real slide trumpet:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/71/SlideTrumpet2.jpg/220px-SlideTrumpet2.jpg

Pictured is a replica of a 15th Century instrument.

What the majority of modern trumpeters think of as a slide trumpet is, in actuality, a soprano trombone. I have noodled around on a few of them. Many models will accept standard trumpet mouthpieces. Though I'm sure they exist, I don't know of anyone specific who plays a real slide trumpet.

There is such a thing as a piccolo trombone. It is pitched like a piccolo trumpet.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/12Pb0ektzuU/maxresdefault.jpg

Left to right: piccolo, soprano, tenor, bass, and contrabass trombones.
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chapahi · Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:16 am Post subject:

Wycliff Gordon in action....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1muJwnmcXzg

I was playing a lot of trombone a few years ago and, being a trumpet player, thought that slide trumpet, or "soprano trombone" would be a shoe in. I got to try a really nice at one the Kanstul factory and found out that it's not that easy at all. The slide positions are very hard to get precisely and I figured the hours of practice spent just to end up sounding more or less like a regular trumpet would be a poor bargain. It looks like a blast to play however....
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THE BD · Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:25 am Post subject:

I play a Martin Soprano Trombone, it's over 100 years old. I've used it on a few gigs for kicks and to have fun with the kids in the audience. It uses a flugel shank mouthpiece.
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And here's Wycliffe Gordon with the UNT One O'clock, 2015 Cancer Blows...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTy-NeVaUL4

Incredible performance...soloist and band!

Roel · Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:14 am Post subject:

Technically, a soprano trombone would be pitched in (about) e flat, just as the soprano cornet is a cornet in e flat.

Trumpets in b flat and c are called mezzosoprano trumpets, so a slide trumpet in b flat should be called a mezzosoprano trombone.

I call it a slide trumpet anyway as it is a trumpet and you change the pitch with a slide.

Kanstul made two kinds of slide trumpets: model 140 was marketed as slide trumpet, with a 72-like bell. Model 150, with a larger throated bell, was sold as a soprano trombone. What's in a name. I played them both, and liked the 150 very much. They both played and sounded like trumpets.

http://www.kanstul.com/instruments/trumpets/140-bb-slide-trumpet/
https://www.kanstul.com/instruments/trombones/150-bb-soprano-trombone/
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jazz_trpt · Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:10 am Post subject:

I have a Jupiter that I bought used. I played it on one gig (briefly) and have practiced with it a bit as an embouchure development tool. It's of limited usefulness for what I do.
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illegalbugler · Regular Member Joined: 18 May 2015 Posts: 66

Is there anything that might be of benefit for playing a slide trumpet / (mezzo)soprano trombone? Improving your ear for intonation?

I was interested in the Kanstul one but alas...
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JeffM729 · Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:45 am Post subject:

My slide trumpet is a Weril. It's not the world's finest, but it's more than enough for my purposes for just having it as a novelty.

Steven Bernstein is a slide trumpet player that you should check out and his recordings with the group, Sex Mob. I've caught him live a few times. The Sex Mob Does Bond album is outstanding.

DJtpt31 · Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:08 am Post subject:

I figure for most people a slide trumpet would be a novelty. Curious if anyone has been using one for anything else.
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