Bach TR 700 trumpet

jondrowjf@gmail.com · Heavyweight Member Joined: 15 Jul 2016 Posts: 672

Was unable to find any information on the Bach TR 700 trumpet. Is this an intermediate trumpet? How does it sound and feel?

Sold my Getzen Capri trumpet. Didn't like the 1st slide trigger and the 3rd slide adjustable rod. Since it could not be modified, decided to sell it.

Keep my Getzen Capri cornet. Was able to live with 1st slide trigger or the 3rd slide rod.

Do miss the sound of the Getzen Capri trumpet.
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HaveTrumpetWillTravel · Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:35 pm Post subject:

I googled here and it looks like a student "prelude" model made overseas (now these seem to be the TR500s?). I don't think it's an intermediate trumpet.

jondrowjf@gmail.com · Heavyweight Member Joined: 15 Jul 2016 Posts: 672

Thanks Have Trumpet for Travel for the information. If I win the bid, may use it for a backup trumpet or flip it.
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OldSchoolEuph · Heavyweight Member Joined: 07 Apr 2012 Posts: 2441

TR700 is a Prelude (easily recognized on the Conn-Selmer site as an offshore by the almost non-existent warranty). Worth maybe $150 used, and not sure why that much. Its a TSO stenciled by Conn-Selmer to have product to compete with the similar "instruments" too many people buy these days.
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yourbrass · Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:53 pm Post subject:

I had a "Bach TR300" come into the shop recently which didn't look at all like the hundreds of them I've worked on. It was Chinese, and maybe Conn-Selmer has offshored the whole student line, don't know.

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jondrowjf@gmail.com · Heavyweight Member Joined: 15 Jul 2016 Posts: 672

Yes I did win them all. Received Bach 700 today, no marking anywhere indicating it is a Bach 700 trumpet. So I am returning it.

Waiting on all the trumpets. Plan on keeping the Getzen 700 Eterna and selling the other trumpet.

Getzen comes with 1st slide thumb saddle, and 3rd slide adjustable ring. Likely will add 3rd slide fixed ring.

Did think about buying a Getzen Capri trumpet with the 1st slide thumb saddle, but decided to move up to the Getzen 700 Eterna trumpet.

Have owed Getzen 300 cornet, Getzen 390 trumpet, Getzen 490 trumpet. Wasn't impressed with the sound of the trumpets, until I bought the Getzen Capri cornet and trumpet.
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Crazy Finn · Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:22 pm Post subject:

I haven't seen any Chinese TR300's, but if they were a brief period - that might be why. One of the music programs I worked for moved away from the TR300 for while around that time - maybe that was the reason.

The TR500's are hide the children bad - maybe a tiny step above the random (non-Indian) internet trumpet. Maybe. Bring one in to a repair shop and see the mental groan that the tech has when they see what it is and then carefully explain how it's not a very high quality instrument. The one or two TR700 I've seen were in this mold as well. Not a intermediate horn, for sure, and a lesser horn than the TR300 by a mile.

To be clear, every once in a while, you get a random horn that plays way better than it should by sheer luck. It doesn't mean the quality is good or the parts are solid components, it just randomly got assembled in a way that it functions well.

After going over a bunch of new TR300's and cleaning up a bunch of used TR300's, I have a higher opinion of them than previously. The main thing is that the valves on the new ones feel clunky and moderately fitted. However, often after being played for a while, they seem to fit and move much better than when new. After a period of break-in they might be solid valves after all.

Finally, I have to question the wisdom of selling a Getzen Capri because of the trigger. I am no fan of triggers and have removed a few - my Bach 184 plays better (though freer and more open) with a saddle than a trigger - but these are smaller details on a horn that is extremely solid overall and has Getzen valves.

FWIW - newer Capri trumpet come with a saddle rather than a trigger.
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