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Fubeca Regular Member
Joined: 30 Apr 2019 Posts: 20
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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:21 pm Post subject: Cornet Mouthpieces don't fit Bach strad cornet |
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First time poster here.
A friend recently sent me some mouthpieces he described as traditional cornet mouthpieces. I've tried using them in a Bach Strad cornet I've been borrowing, but they don't fit the receiver. They don't go in far enough. My trumpet professor said they look like flugel pieces to him, but they don't work well in a flugel either.
They're a Reynolds 6A and an Olds 14. Have cornet receivers changed or do I just have some oddities that only fit horns made by the same manufacturer? |
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zaferis Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Nov 2011 Posts: 2331 Location: Beavercreek, OH
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Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 3:14 am Post subject: |
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Some makers made different sized recievers.. If I remember, some of the earlier models of Olds cornets had a larger receiver...
spend a little cash and buy a new mouthpiece, Curry and Pickett a top my list.
Old mouthpieces are good curiosities, unless they are in rare excellent condition IMO better for your chops to have a new/clean mouthpiece _________________ Freelance Performer/Educator
Adjunct Professor
Bach Trumpet Endorsing Artist
Retired Air Force Bandsman |
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 8914 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 8:20 am Post subject: |
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Yes, cornet tapers have changed over the years. It can take a bit of effort when mixing and matching vintage horns and/or mouthpieces. And it sounds like you're dealing with a couple of older mouthpieces. _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
Charles J Heiden/So Cal
Bach Strad 180ML43*/43 Bb/Yamaha 731 Flugel/Benge 1X C/Kanstul 920 Picc/Conn 80A Cornet
Bach 3C rim on 1.5C underpart |
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B. Scriver Heavyweight Member
Joined: 14 Jan 2002 Posts: 1204 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 11:32 am Post subject: |
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Probably It's an older shank design @ .365, used by Olds.
The FL shank starts at .355"
Cornet shank at .341"
The engagement difference from the Cornet to .365 Cornet would be about .48" almost 1/2 inch.
From Flugelhorn to cornet the engagement difference would be .28" a little over 1/4" or about 7mm.
Gary Radtke
www.grmouthpieces.com |
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wehip Regular Member
Joined: 11 Sep 2019 Posts: 20
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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I had some trouble getting a Yamaha short shank mouthpiece into a Bach Strad cornet that I recently tried. It did fit in but not naturally and the blow just didn't feel quite right. _________________ B-flat: Bach 37
Cornet: Yamaha 233
Flugel: Yamaha 631
Piccolo: Kanstul 920 |
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