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creed61101 New Member
Joined: 08 Oct 2019 Posts: 8 Location: Spring, Texas
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Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:04 am Post subject: Some Questions |
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I’ve been trying to get into Caruso, but I want to make sure that I’m doing it correctly. If I do the interval studies at the end of my practice session, when I’m already tired, would I get less benefit than doing them at the beginning? Also, when the book says not to force, should the notes be played with as little pressure as possible or is there an aspect to forcing I’m missing? |
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TrpPro Heavyweight Member
Joined: 12 Jan 2006 Posts: 1471 Location: Riverview, FL
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Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:26 pm Post subject: Re: Some Questions |
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Good questions. First question is easy to answer. The second one not so easy.
creed61101 wrote: | If I do the interval studies at the end of my practice session, when I’m already tired, would I get less benefit than doing them at the beginning? |
The Caruso exercises should be done first thing when you practice so that your embouchure is at its most rested state. You don't need to "warm up" to start practicing. Many students view The Six Notes and the Seconds as their warm up. You suspected that they might be less beneficial when you're tired and you are right. The most gain will be experienced by doing the exercises when the embouchure is fully rested.
creed61101 wrote: | Also, when the book says not to force, should the notes be played with as little pressure as possible or is there an aspect to forcing I’m missing? |
If I were to write an update to MCFB, I would leave out the sentence that says "don't force." I agree with you that it can be confusing.
I could go on at length about this, but the best advice I can give you is that you may use all the pressure (a form of manipulation) you want, but only as long as you are following the Four Rules exactly. Following the 4 Rules will prevent any kind of injury from occurring due to various forms of manipulation that may be implemented to (especially) reach the higher notes. Eventually all of these manipulations that might be employed will be reduced to a minimum.
As always, when practicing non Caruso music do NOT attempt to willfully apply the Caruso techniques. |
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pepperdean Heavyweight Member
Joined: 10 Mar 2004 Posts: 650 Location: Johnson City, Texas
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:19 am Post subject: |
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Good answer by TrpPro. I want to just expand a little further:
Following the Rules prevents damage from the strenuous practice of the Caruso routine - and it should be played first thing. This practice can set your playing for the remainder of the day. I've found that an early morning Caruso session very effectively eliminates the remnants of a tough day of gigs and gets me ready for performances on a succeeding day.
As to the second part of your questions, Caruso exercises allow your chops to develop adaptations to physical demands. At my first lesson, Carmine spoke of the "pressure" of the lips against the mouthpiece, working to neutralize the incoming horn pressure. If you consciously withhold pressure during your Caruso practice, you short-circuit the ability to develop this particular adaptation.
Jump in. Follow the rules and go for it. You'll be happy with the results.
Alan |
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windandsong Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Feb 2006 Posts: 706 Location: Whitstable, UK
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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At the start of the day.
Tap your foot, this is SO important I think.
Don't worry about the sound you're producing, it will come.
It takes time to develop with this I have found, literally years but once it clicks it really settles your playing with a firm foundation.
G _________________ Bach 180/37
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harryjamesworstnightmare Veteran Member
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There should not be any forcing of the tone. _________________ Brian James
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PH Bill Adam/Carmine Caruso Forum Moderator
Joined: 26 Nov 2001 Posts: 5862 Location: New Albany, Indiana
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harryjamesworstnightmare wrote: | There should not be any forcing of the tone. Think of the trumpet as your voice. If you sing in a forced manner it probably doesn't sound very good. Imagine yourself singing the exercises and let that sound come out of your bell. |
Since this is the Caruso forum, I would ask you to refrain from continuing this. In Caruso's calisthenics the focus must be on the Four Rules and tone is to be disregarded during practice of the calisthenics. _________________ Bach trumpet artist-clinician
Clinical Professor of Jazz Trumpet, University of Illinois
Professor Emeritus of Jazz Studies, Indiana University Jacobs School of Music
Faculty Jamey Aebersold Jazz Workshops 1976-2019
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gstump Heavyweight Member
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Play with abandon _________________ Schilke B5
Couesnon Flug (1967)
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