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krell1960 Veteran Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:49 am Post subject: |
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Wonderful effortless sounding playing, I was wondering about your set up as well, Mic, interface, software, how are you treating the sound? The sound seems bigger than the room.
Obviously your own sound is great to start with, just wondering if your treating the recording in anyway.
Great Stuff !!!
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John Mohan Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:38 am Post subject: |
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Beautiful playing!!! |
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MrClean Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:06 am Post subject: |
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krell1960 wrote: | Wonderful effortless sounding playing, I was wondering about your set up as well, Mic, interface, software, how are you treating the sound? The sound seems bigger than the room.
Obviously your own sound is great to start with, just wondering if your treating the recording in anyway.
Great Stuff !!!
regards,
Tom |
Are you implying I am manipulating the sound?! Hell, yes, lol. The room is small and loud, but not warm. A little smaller than 7x9 with 7’ ceilings. I am using a pair of Cascade Fathead ribbons in a blumlein configuration, going into a Zoom F4 field recorder. I use Audacity to trim the ends (no editing/splicing) and then I add reverb to sweeten it. Probably a bit heavy handed with that, but if you close your eyes, the cognitive dissonance goes away. The video is mainly to show it is a single take - I’m not using multiple cameras to hide edits.
J _________________ Jim Wilt
LA Philharmonic
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MrClean Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:09 am Post subject: |
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tptptp wrote: | You are such a great artist! Thank you for letting us listen to your beautiful playing!
Forgive me for asking, but is there any chance you could play something on Bb? |
C is my home horn, but I’ll try to lay something down on the Bb. It’s a bit too big for a lot of stuff, which is probably why I don’t play it much. _________________ Jim Wilt
LA Philharmonic
Colburn School |
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MrClean Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Today's installment of "From the Safety of My Practice Room" is an "inside the box" version of Charlier 2. Immediately previous to recording this, I had a Zoom chat with Tony Prisk who extolled the virtues of trying to make some music within certain confines, including use of rubato within a steady tempo, etc. I admit upon listening to it that it comes off a little dynamically limited, but I've noticed that on many of these recording. It is small room, and I find myself reluctant to go to "11" in it...
Secondly, in the interest of giving tptptp the Bb he asked for, I picked up the beast today, and was probably being more cautious than usual so I wouldn't blow past my intended partials. The further into one of these etudes you get, the less you want to have to start over.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fsidpv1704boxci/Charlier%202.mp4?dl=0 _________________ Jim Wilt
LA Philharmonic
Colburn School
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Dayton Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:02 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | an "inside the box" version |
Out of curiosity, do you also practice pieces the opposite way: Extreme dynamic contrasts, rubato, etc?
Thanks for continuing to share your videos! |
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lclebsch215 Regular Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:20 am Post subject: |
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MrClean wrote: | tptptp wrote: | You are such a great artist! Thank you for letting us listen to your beautiful playing!
Forgive me for asking, but is there any chance you could play something on Bb? |
C is my home horn, but I’ll try to lay something down on the Bb. It’s a bit too big for a lot of stuff, which is probably why I don’t play it much. |
Mr. Wilt,
When do you pull out the Bb? is it mostly when a part dictates it due to low range, a solo, or something else? Thanks. |
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tptptp Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:34 am Post subject: |
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Thank you, Mr. Wilt. What a morning blessing you have provided! _________________ Craig Mitchell |
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MrClean Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:14 am Post subject: |
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Dayton wrote: | Quote: | an "inside the box" version |
Out of curiosity, do you also practice pieces the opposite way: Extreme dynamic contrasts, rubato, etc?
Thanks for continuing to share your videos! |
Not nearly as often as I should. I’m usually too focused on being consistent because that’s so much a part of my job. This pandemic has actually allowed me the break in our insane schedule to try some new stuff. _________________ Jim Wilt
LA Philharmonic
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MrClean Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:18 am Post subject: |
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lclebsch215 wrote: | MrClean wrote: | tptptp wrote: | You are such a great artist! Thank you for letting us listen to your beautiful playing!
Forgive me for asking, but is there any chance you could play something on Bb? |
C is my home horn, but I’ll try to lay something down on the Bb. It’s a bit too big for a lot of stuff, which is probably why I don’t play it much. |
Mr. Wilt,
When do you pull out the Bb? is it mostly when a part dictates it due to low range, a solo, or something else? Thanks. |
Pretty much, or when a student brings in a piece that is played on Bb (like Hindemith, for example). I always feel completely out of my element on it and miss more notes on it than any other horn. If I was smart, I would take that as a sign that I need to spend more time on it, but it is just more efficient for me to do most things on my C. _________________ Jim Wilt
LA Philharmonic
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krell1960 Veteran Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:38 am Post subject: |
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MrClean wrote: | krell1960 wrote: | Wonderful effortless sounding playing, I was wondering about your set up as well, Mic, interface, software, how are you treating the sound? The sound seems bigger than the room.
Obviously your own sound is great to start with, just wondering if your treating the recording in anyway.
Great Stuff !!!
regards,
Tom |
Are you implying I am manipulating the sound?! Hell, yes, lol. The room is small and loud, but not warm. A little smaller than 7x9 with 7’ ceilings. I am using a pair of Cascade Fathead ribbons in a blumlein configuration, going into a Zoom F4 field recorder. I use Audacity to trim the ends (no editing/splicing) and then I add reverb to sweeten it. Probably a bit heavy handed with that, but if you close your eyes, the cognitive dissonance goes away. The video is mainly to show it is a single take - I’m not using multiple cameras to hide edits.
J |
Thanks for sharing that info Jim,
I'm a big fan of Audacity Software as well, your sound seems pretty spot on with the reverb in my opinion, i definitely use more than you, lol, and i can't get all my stuff down in one take, especially now with my wife or son constantly barging in and out of my basement studio turning on the washer and dryer, ughhh. i suppose this isn't a bad problem to have at the moment.
Love the stuff your recording, i miss that quality of playing in my ear and brain. Reminds me of when i was studying with Ray Mase in the early 80's. Boy i loved it when i messed up during a lesson and he said "it should be more like this" and i just got immersed in a great trumpet sound.
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Tom |
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MrClean Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:40 am Post subject: |
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Thanks, Tom. Can I assume from your signature you are an audiophile? _________________ Jim Wilt
LA Philharmonic
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krell1960 Veteran Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:48 am Post subject: |
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I was when i was single
Still have a lot of the old stuff but only use occasionally, but recently did add a nice harmon kardon blue tooth interface so i can stream to it from my PC and Phone, You sound great on it BTW !!
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MrClean Heavyweight Member
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2many5s Regular Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:47 am Post subject: |
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Refreshing Etudes and thanks for the inspirational playing💥 |
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cgaiii Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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MrClean wrote: | I picked up the beast today, |
Thanks for doing so. Once again enjoyed your playing. I think you could make anything sound melodic and sensitive. Great work. _________________ Bb: Schilke X3L AS, Yamaha YTR-6335S
C: Schilke CXL, Kanstul 1510-2
Bb Cornet: Getzen 800 DLXS
Pic: Kanstul 920
Bb Bugle: Kanstul
Bb Pocket: Manchester Brass
Flugel: Taylor Std
Bass Tr: BAC Custom
Nat. Tr: Nikolai Mänttäri Morales Haas replica |
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MrClean Heavyweight Member
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Eliot Veteran Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:05 am Post subject: |
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If playing these Etudes during the Covid-19 virus restrictions helps keep up the standard required for your employment, may the restrictions continue for quite some time.
'Tis great for us "try hards" to hear the professionals perform and be motivated to continue our practising in an effort to try and achieve some semblance of proficiency.
Thank you for your contributions to the forum. |
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cgaiii Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:36 am Post subject: |
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Eliot wrote: | If playing these Etudes during the Covid-19 virus restrictions helps keep up the standard required for your employment, may the restrictions continue for quite some time.
'Tis great for us "try hards" to hear the professionals perform and be motivated to continue our practising in an effort to try and achieve some semblance of proficiency.
Thank you for your contributions to the forum. |
+1 to this. It is also great to see the work put in. That was a difficult etude, well executed. I like the care placed on each note. It gives lots of us a standard to work to. Thanks again. _________________ Bb: Schilke X3L AS, Yamaha YTR-6335S
C: Schilke CXL, Kanstul 1510-2
Bb Cornet: Getzen 800 DLXS
Pic: Kanstul 920
Bb Bugle: Kanstul
Bb Pocket: Manchester Brass
Flugel: Taylor Std
Bass Tr: BAC Custom
Nat. Tr: Nikolai Mänttäri Morales Haas replica |
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MrClean Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:23 am Post subject: |
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Thanks, guys. This was a tricky one. There were a couple of untidy spots, and some intonations issues on the soft low thing, but I had to pick my poison. Some of these are easier to record - most of the Collins etudes and the Intrada were one-take, but this was not, haha. Sometimes I’d sail through the gnarly parts and lay a big egg on something because I was careless. With each take, the sound gets a little grainier because of fatigue. At some point, you just say “this will have to do”. _________________ Jim Wilt
LA Philharmonic
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