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jhatpro Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2020 2:33 pm Post subject: To Gig or Not |
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Our 7-piece trad band hasn’t rehearsed or performed since February. A local senior residence has asked us to play for an hour outdoors at their location.
Everyone in our group assures me they are symptom free.
Would you accept or decline the gig? _________________ Jim Hatfield
"The notes are there - find them.” Mingus
2021 Martinus Geelan Custom
2005 Bach 180-72R
1965 Getzen Eterna Severinsen
1946 Conn Victor
1998 Scodwell flugel
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2020 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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When? _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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jhatpro Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2020 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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Friday, June 5. _________________ Jim Hatfield
"The notes are there - find them.” Mingus
2021 Martinus Geelan Custom
2005 Bach 180-72R
1965 Getzen Eterna Severinsen
1946 Conn Victor
1998 Scodwell flugel
1986 Bach 181 cornet
1954 Conn 80A cornet
2002 Getzen bugle |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2020 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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That's a high risk group you will be playing for. Not saying what you should do, but if it was me, I'd respectfully decline. Put it off for a better day, as it were. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
Yamaha 8310Z Bobby Shew trumpet
Benge 3X Trumpet
Benge 3X Cornet
Adams F-1 Flghn
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TrumpetMD Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2020 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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This is going to be a personal choice. Some may want to be more cautious, while other may not. If you want to play, if you are following the appropriate guidelines, and if everyone is comfortable with the arrangements, then you should go ahead and do it.
My band played an outdoor fundraiser gig last week. We performed as a trio, we played outside, and we "socially distanced". The gig went great.
I will add that for our gig, I kept the band to a trio, to make it easier to socially distance. Also, we set up about 12 feet apart, which made it a bit hard to hear each other.
Mike _________________ Bach Stradivarius 43* Trumpet (1974), Bach 6C Mouthpiece.
Bach Stradivarius 184 Cornet (1988), Yamaha 13E4 Mouthpiece
Olds L-12 Flugelhorn (1969), Yamaha 13F4 Mouthpiece.
Plus a few other Bach, Getzen, Olds, Carol, HN White, and Besson horns.
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jhatpro Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2020 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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We’re a microcosm of the nation with some in our group in the “reopen now” camp and others more cautious.
Guess who we’ll wait a few days, do another symptom check and take a vote. _________________ Jim Hatfield
"The notes are there - find them.” Mingus
2021 Martinus Geelan Custom
2005 Bach 180-72R
1965 Getzen Eterna Severinsen
1946 Conn Victor
1998 Scodwell flugel
1986 Bach 181 cornet
1954 Conn 80A cornet
2002 Getzen bugle |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2020 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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I wouldn't leave it to others to vote for my own chances. Seems a cop out. You're responsible for your own health. It's what you want, not someone else. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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markp Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2020 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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Bands are loud. Set up far from your audience. Maintain generous social distance. You’re all adults, including the residents, and can be responsible for the choices you make. |
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american boy Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2020 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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My 7 piece Latin Jazz Band has been asked to perform in June,one place would be outdoors at a resort,and another indoors in a club,although that one is tentative..My thoughts are to go ahead with the outdoor one,and they assured me there will be plenty of room on the stage,and we would be actually piping the music to the customers rooms,so theres little worry there..Caution of course entering and leaving the place;
The indoor one has me and the rest of the band asking questions..such as the opinion I have heard that this virus might be spread around by air conditioning,Although that is still a question mark; Do we want to take a chance with that? The jury is still out,although we are leaning towards passing on that one;
Hopefully these questions get answered soon; I love to play,but at what price? |
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homebilly Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2020 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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at some point we will all have to take that calculated risk
we can't carry on like this forever and we'll just have to be extra cautious
when we decide to do.our first gig
outside sounds like a good start _________________ ron meza (deadbeat jazz musician) & (TH 5 post ghost neighborhood watch ringleader)
waiting for Fed-Ex to deliver a $50 trumpet to my door. shipping was prepaid by seller of course!
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theslawdawg Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2020 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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american boy wrote: | My 7 piece Latin Jazz Band has been asked to perform in June,one place would be outdoors at a resort,and another indoors in a club,although that one is tentative..My thoughts are to go ahead with the outdoor one,and they assured me there will be plenty of room on the stage,and we would be actually piping the music to the customers rooms,so theres little worry there..Caution of course entering and leaving the place;
The indoor one has me and the rest of the band asking questions..such as the opinion I have heard that this virus might be spread around by air conditioning,Although that is still a question mark; Do we want to take a chance with that? The jury is still out,although we are leaning towards passing on that one;
Hopefully these questions get answered soon; I love to play,but at what price? |
Outdoor....make sure they have enforcement in place to space folks out. Enforcement meaning actual people making sure the fancy warning signs are followed. I would also get assurance you have a clear path going from a to b and back to a.
Indoor....No No No.
All the best... _________________ My go-to Trumpet and Flugel: Thane.
Greg Black MPs
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etc-etc Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2020 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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I recall a concert a couple years ago in which from the front row I could sense, with my nose, the gunk or whatever olfactory excesses that had been emanating from the not-well-maintained saxophones.
Wind instruments are aerosol generators. Musicians performing on wind instruments breathe quite intensively, at the very least, on the inhale (unless you practice circular breathing). Both practices are risky in the days of the coronavirus.
Have you tried playing with the nose (but not the mouth) covered with a mask and breathing in through the nose? Or, perhaps, cut out a small circular hole (support the hole and prevent further tearing with a grommet) in the face mask to fit the mouthpiece shank through? |
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khedger Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2020 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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First I'd consider whether anyone in the group is a 'high risk' category. Age, chronic illness, other family members sick, any symptoms, etc.
If everybody's low risk and healthy, then I might consider it under the following conditions:
-band members are well distanced from ANYONE from the facility (clients, admins, etc.)
-band members are well distanced from each other
-facemasks worn when not playing
-never enter the inside of the facility
-nobody from the band gets any food, beverage or such from anyone else
But that's me.....
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area51recording Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 11:52 am Post subject: |
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"Symptom free" is NOT the same thing as "Virus free"...... |
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jhatpro Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 11:54 am Post subject: |
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The gig has been cancelled due to mutual concerns about Coronavirus. _________________ Jim Hatfield
"The notes are there - find them.” Mingus
2021 Martinus Geelan Custom
2005 Bach 180-72R
1965 Getzen Eterna Severinsen
1946 Conn Victor
1998 Scodwell flugel
1986 Bach 181 cornet
1954 Conn 80A cornet
2002 Getzen bugle |
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TrumpetMD Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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jhatpro wrote: | The gig has been cancelled due to mutual concerns about Coronavirus. |
Thanks for the update Jim. I think this was a very informative thread, and is something we'll all have to deal with in the coming weeks.
In addition, I appreciate the fact, that in spite of the variety of opinions on what can be a controversial topic, the comments here were all respectful.
Mike _________________ Bach Stradivarius 43* Trumpet (1974), Bach 6C Mouthpiece.
Bach Stradivarius 184 Cornet (1988), Yamaha 13E4 Mouthpiece
Olds L-12 Flugelhorn (1969), Yamaha 13F4 Mouthpiece.
Plus a few other Bach, Getzen, Olds, Carol, HN White, and Besson horns. |
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jhatpro Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, Mike. I agree. I consider the Trumpet Herald community an extremely valuable source of insight and, generally, good judgment on so many things trumpeters are interested in. _________________ Jim Hatfield
"The notes are there - find them.” Mingus
2021 Martinus Geelan Custom
2005 Bach 180-72R
1965 Getzen Eterna Severinsen
1946 Conn Victor
1998 Scodwell flugel
1986 Bach 181 cornet
1954 Conn 80A cornet
2002 Getzen bugle |
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Bill Ortiz Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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Glad the event was cancelled. Symptom free means NOTHING. _________________ '56 Martin Committee Deluxe #2 trumpet
14B Schilke mouthpiece
Couesnon Paris flugelhorn
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pepperdean Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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I can't imagine what they were thinking when they asked you to perform. You're in an area, unlike here, that has a lot of virus and an institution with a high-risk demographic wants to invite outsiders to their campus? The liability risk is enormous.
I hope you get to play the gig at a safer time.
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plp Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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Laughing my butt off right now.
We are a 15 piece rock and roll band, I'm 60 and they keep me around because I'm young enough to be a roadie. We have 3 members over 80, and most are around 65-70.
We have had 2 rehearsals in 3 months, and need a 40 acre field to respect social distancing.
We are playing a gig May 30th, 6-10 PM, in one of the few places large enough to accommodate us. They normally will seat 800, will have around 300 and we will be taking up the entire previous dance floor to just seat the band.
We. Don't. Care. This will essentially be a open rehearsal, that they are going to pay us to do. Our lead guy told them, we are rusty, not polished, if you want, let us move it back.
They said, We. Don't. Care. They are so starved for a live band, and we have played there several times before, love our set list and our vibe, just come out and have fun.
It is going to be a schmit show, from a performance perspective. We are sooo, not ready. Again, We. Don't Care.
What happens, happens, and suspect may be one of the best gigs we ever do. We are all so hungry for it, will be clams for days, but will be such a blast for those of us playing the back 9, to just get out and perform again. _________________ Since all other motivesfame, money, power, even honorare thrown out the window the moment I pick up that instrument..... I play because I love doing it, even when the results are disappointing. In short, I do it to do it. Wayne Booth |
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