sound getting worse

trumpetgreece · Regular Member Joined: 20 Mar 2020 Posts: 16

Hi everyone! I wanted to ask a question.

Everyday when I start playing I produce a very good sound.
Then after half an hour playing the sound becomes worse.
Then after about an hour playing the sound sucks.

Does this happen also in your playing, or is it just me?
Is this normal?

Jaw04 · Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:39 pm Post subject:

I know the feeling! Those kinds of things probably happen to everybody sometimes. I don't think anybody can fix your specific problem but the advice I can give is make sure to rest often, practice soft, and work on playing the exact correct way for you. Focus on your mechanics and your body use. I wonder if you would still be unhappy with your sound if you practiced in much smaller sessions like 10 minutes and then rest for 20 mins.

JayKosta · Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:56 pm Post subject: symptoms of lip fatigue

Is only the sound getting worse? Can you reliably play the same tempo, articulations, and range? Can you play the same pieces without missing notes - but the sound quality is less?

The typical indication of fatigue is that the lip muscles become less responsive, and control of lip tension is reduced.

Jay
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trumpetgreece · Regular Member Joined: 20 Mar 2020 Posts: 16

Bill_Bumps · Veteran Member Joined: 07 May 2019 Posts: 157

When that happens to me, it's usually due to one of these factors:

1:I've had to miss one or two days' practice.

2: I'm not feeling well (sick; tired; etc.).

3: I'm not resting my lips enough between numbers.

mileage · Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 5:30 am Post subject:

Hi trumpetgreece,
If it’s not chops then maybe it’s just an increase of tension in the throat and/or tongue?
Try taking the tongue away when you start to feel that the sound is deteriorating and think about if you’re feeling tight in the throat.
Also stay relaxed in your body. Frustration can lead to tight grips, hunched shoulders and tensed arms and chest, and visa versa. When you breathe imagine that you’re filling up your stomach with air and visualise the airstream travelling across the room freely, pushed along by your core muscles.
Best of luck!
Miles
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cheiden · Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:07 am Post subject:

Causes that leap to mind:
- No regular and effective practice routine
- Insufficient or poor embouchure development
- Ineffective use of air
- Excessive use of arm pressure
- Inadequate resting
- Playing beyond your ability
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trumpetgreece · Regular Member Joined: 20 Mar 2020 Posts: 16

Thank u for all your answers!

I just wanted to know if it is something that is normally happening to everyone.

cheiden · Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:55 pm Post subject:

I've certainly had episode of that happening, but only rarely. My casual observation of other players suggest that for routine rehearsing and performing this is not at all normal.
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Andy Del · Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:34 pm Post subject:

You have described your sound deteriorating, but nothing at all about what you are playing, or if you are playing non stop, etc.

Your perceived problems could be any number of things, and to guess is only going to confuse you. Go find someone you trust to listen to you, and make some suggestions. Anything, absolutely anything else is just a waste of your time.

Cheers

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Bflatman · Heavyweight Member Joined: 01 Nov 2016 Posts: 720

This sound deterioration is either normal or not normal it depends entirely upon your playing routine.

In running for example it is normal for a marathon runner to run for 4 hours before exhaustion overcomes him.

A 100 yard sprinter is exhausted in just 10 seconds so is exhaustion for a runner after one minute normal or abnormal. The answer is it depends upon the exertion the runner has made before the exhaustion.

The human body is capable if extreme exertion or long and steady effort.

What are you doing extreme exertion or steady effort.

The answer to your question is bound up entirely with how you play how long you play and what exertion you expend while you play and what rest you take and how often.

I suspect you are over exerting yourself with no breaks but how can I know this I am just guessing.

BraeGrimes · Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:32 pm Post subject:

wilder · Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:44 am Post subject:

Vin DiBona · Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:22 am Post subject:

Too many folks here like to take blind stabs in the dark.

Andy Del wrote:

Your perceived problems could be any number of things, and to guess is only going to confuse you. Go find someone you trust to listen to you, and make some suggestions. Anything, absolutely anything else is just a waste of your time.

BraeGrimes wrote.

It took that three days worth of replies for someone to make sense...

Andy is right. Everyone else is taking a blind stab in the dark.

Andy and some other wise and experienced players give proper advice.
I always advise younger players I run into to not pay much attention to what is said here.

R. Tomasek

cheiden · Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:50 am Post subject:

I chuckle when participation in a forum is met with admonition not to listen to anything posted on the forum.
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