Jazzy Plunger songs

Krafty934 · Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 8:16 am Post subject:

Does anybody know any songs with really awesome plunger technique and maybe growling in it as well? Thanks!

Kaushik

mateoshaw · Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 8:34 am Post subject:

I really love Clark Terry on the Oscar Peterson plus one recording. He doesn't do a huge amount of growling, but his articulation and phrasing on that album are killin. The first track, "brotherhood of man", is a great start for plunger technique. I can't help but feel happy when I listen to it.

On a side note, listen to the rhythm section concept on that. Ray Brown plays just a hair in front of the ride cymbal. The more I work with rhythm sections, I'm convinced that's the way to achieve a real sense of swing. If only I could get more young bass players to check it out...

[ This Message was edited by: mateoshaw on 2003-12-27 11:36 ]

blasticore · Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 8:54 am Post subject:

Find some of Snooky Young's plunger work. If you can't find any recordings, try http://www.trumpetstuff.com for some of his video and sound clips. There's a clip with him, Doc, and Conte under the Doc section of the site.
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cperret · Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 8:56 am Post subject:

Merry Christmas, Matt! I miss ya, buddy!

Anyway, it just so happens that 'Oscar Peterson Trio plus One' has remained, since I heard it in highschool, my favorite trumpet recording of all time. There are transcriptions available online, and Clark Terry's plunger work is well worth checking out.

...on MY side note: That's an interesting point about Ray Brown's groove, Matt - I'll have to do a little research of my own. I've always felt that Oscar's trio had one of the most electric swing feels, but I could never put my finger on what it was, you know? The +1 album, in particular, is just full of seriously driving, happy groove. Thanks for bringing it to mind - I'm going to go listen to it right now!

Krafty934 · Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 9:39 am Post subject:

Great! Thanks guys! Any more suggested would be helpful too! Thanks a lot!

Kaushik

Tom K. · Veteran Member Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 483

Listen to Wynton Marsalis on "Bona and Paul." I believe it is on the CD Resolution of Romance vol. 3. Prepare to be blown away by sound and technique.

etownfwd · Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 8:44 pm Post subject:

Anything from Duke Ellington's very early years. Look for a cat named Bubber Mirely on those charts. I think the signature piece was East St. Louis Toodle-O. Almost anything Clark Terry is spot-on. Freddie Keppard might be another cat to look for. Oh, and I also second Wynton's "The Seductress". Finally finished...
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JackD · Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 3:01 am Post subject:

Check out "Concerto for Cootie" by Duke Ellington. It's a Cootie Williams feature (a plunger specialist), and a great piece of music.

jazz_trpt · Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 12:04 pm Post subject:

Ellington's "Tutti for Cootie" (I think it's on The Great Paris Concert).

Clark Terry, "Brotherhood of Man", from Oscar Peterson Trio Plus One featuring Clark Terry

Snooky Young, "Who, Me?", from Breakfast Dance and Barbeque (Basie)
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jhatpro · Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 12:51 pm Post subject:

Check out Rex Stewart's work with the Ellington Band.

Also, if you want to experiment with different plunger sounds, make your own mute from the top of a plastic, 2 liter soft drink container. Cut to fit your bell. (Don't cut yourself -- use a hacksaw and/or scissors, not a razor blade or box cutter.)
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trumpetmike · Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 3:17 pm Post subject:

Ooooh, Rex Stewart - somewhere I have a tape that someone copied for me of him playing. Incredible plunger and pedal note work.
It was the first time I had heard either of these techniques used properly in a solo and it made me want to learn how to do it.

Well, I now know how to use a plunger and how to play pedal notes (and double pedals!). Still can't play jazz solos, but hey, the technique is still fun!