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Bryant Jordan Veteran Member
Joined: 16 Aug 2015 Posts: 410 Location: Utah, USA
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:11 am Post subject: Horns ranked by importance... |
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This has been on my mind for a while, and I’m wondering what others think.
First, to be clear, I know the type of playing you mainly do has the biggest affect on what type of horn is most important to you. For me, it’s the Bb, followed by C, followed by flugel, then pic, then the others (cornet, Eb/D, rotary, etc.) fall into place according or as needed.
Just wondering, for you, what type of horn is most important? The overwhelming majority will answer Bb, but I’m curious to see how many mainly use C or possibly even something else. Any thoughts or comments are welcome as well.
Thanks! |
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Bryant Jordan Veteran Member
Joined: 16 Aug 2015 Posts: 410 Location: Utah, USA
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:24 am Post subject: |
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Also, I’m curious to see where the less common trumpets (cornet, rotary, Eb, herald, etc.) fall in your rank of importance. |
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Subtropical and Subpar Heavyweight Member
Joined: 22 May 2020 Posts: 627 Location: Here and there
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:28 am Post subject: |
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I try to use a cornet in wind bands whenever I can get away with, mostly because I just really like playing it and enjoy the challenge, as it were, of really trying to blend into the trumpets. But B flat trumpet is obviously the go-to. _________________ 1932 King Silvertone cornet
1936 King Liberty No. 2 trumpet
1958 Reynolds Contempora 44-M "Renascence" C
1962 Reynolds Argenta LB trumpet
1965 Conn 38A
1995 Bach LR18072
2003 Kanstul 991
2011 Schilke P5-4 B/G
2021 Manchester Brass flugel |
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Lamiczka Regular Member
Joined: 07 Oct 2020 Posts: 11 Location: Czech Republic (Europe)
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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First choice is no surprise Bb trumpet, but second is rotary Flugel. Piston flugel nor cornet is not common in our piece of land. Eb/D used to be more common in the past but not now. |
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Brassnose Heavyweight Member
Joined: 07 Mar 2016 Posts: 2053 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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Rotary Bb, Bb bass trumpet, then piston Bb, and finally flugel. _________________ 2019 Martin Schmidt eXcellence
1992 Bach 43GH/43
1989 Kühnl & Hoyer Model 15 flugel
1980/2023 Custom Blessing Scholastic C 😎
1977 Conn 6B
1951 Buescher 400 Lightweight
AR Resonance, Frate, Klier |
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Dennis78 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Feb 2015 Posts: 673 Location: Cincinnati
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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Baritone, short cornet and then trumpet. All Bb.
Most of my time on a horn is in a British style brass band. Just started baritone last season. Before that most of my time was on cornet. I use trumpet in regular concert band. This year has been a wash though. So most everything I’m doing is on cornet _________________ a few different ones |
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Riojazz Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 1015 Location: Mid-Hudson Valley, NY
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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Jazz chair in big bands, jazz combos, church so:
flugel, Bb, C, picc, cornet, G, Eb in that order. Not counting woodwinds... _________________ Matt Finley https://mattfinley.bandcamp.com/releases
Kanstul 1525 flugel with French taper, Shires Bb Destino Med & C trumpets, Schilke XA1 cornet, Schagerl rotary, Schilke P5-4 picc, Yamaha soprano sax, Powell flute. Sanborn GR66MS & Touvron-D. |
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Jerry Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 Jan 2002 Posts: 2163 Location: Kennett Square, Pennsylvania
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:42 am Post subject: |
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When I played in community orchestra, it was C followed by picc followed by Bb.
When I played in community band, it was Bb. |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 9028 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:03 am Post subject: |
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Bb trumpets, cornets and flugelhorns exclusively. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
Yamaha 8310Z Bobby Shew trumpet
Benge 3X Trumpet
Benge 3X Cornet
Adams F-1 Flghn |
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SterlingBell Regular Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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Bb, rotary pic in Bb, Schilke pic in A, flugelhorn, cornet,SARV Eb. |
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PH Bill Adam/Carmine Caruso Forum Moderator
Joined: 26 Nov 2001 Posts: 5860 Location: New Albany, Indiana
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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Bb trumpet, flugel, cornet _________________ Bach trumpet artist-clinician
Clinical Professor of Jazz Trumpet, University of Illinois
Professor Emeritus of Jazz Studies, Indiana University Jacobs School of Music
Faculty Jamey Aebersold Jazz Workshops 1976-2019
JazzRetreats.com |
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TrumpetMD Heavyweight Member
Joined: 22 Oct 2008 Posts: 2416 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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I have a non-musical day job, and pre-COVID played 3-4 gigs a month in a jazz trio, with an occasional church gig or bugler assignment. For me, it's Bb trumpet and flugelhorn almost exclusively.
Mike _________________ Bach Stradivarius 43* Trumpet (1974), Bach 6C Mouthpiece.
Bach Stradivarius 184 Cornet (1988), Yamaha 13E4 Mouthpiece
Olds L-12 Flugelhorn (1969), Yamaha 13F4 Mouthpiece.
Plus a few other Bach, Getzen, Olds, Carol, HN White, and Besson horns. |
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Bryant Jordan Veteran Member
Joined: 16 Aug 2015 Posts: 410 Location: Utah, USA
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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Overwhelmingly, it's clear that the Bb is the go to horn in most settings, but the second place slot varies widely between all players with different gigs and focuses. From rotary pic to flugel...pretty extraordinary. |
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Jaw04 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 31 Dec 2015 Posts: 900 Location: Bay Area, California
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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Pre-Covid for me... 1. My main B flat trumpet, 2. my other B flat trumpet that is lighter and sounds different, 3. My flugelhorn, 4. My piccolo, 5. My B flat cornet, 6. My C trumpet |
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Bill Ortiz Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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Working in the jazz, latin and commercial world, for me it's Bb trumpet first and then flugelhorn. I have never had a need for anything else. _________________ '56 Martin Committee Deluxe #2 trumpet
14B Schilke mouthpiece
Couesnon Paris flugelhorn
Bob Reeves Sleeves and PVA |
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LittleRusty Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 12664 Location: Gardena, Ca
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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Mostly church gigs. So Bb, Flugel, and very occasionally C. If I was good on the Picc it would probably be more frequent than the C. |
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JWG Veteran Member
Joined: 27 Jul 2011 Posts: 258
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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LOL, I love questions like this . . . "Horns ranked by importance?"
The most important horn(s) will always be the one(s) that works best with the piece of music currently on your music stand! _________________ Flip Oakes Wild Thing Bb and C with 1.5 TCC, XT, C, C-O, O, & L mouthpieces
Bach 183S (undersprung valves & straight taper pipe) with 1.5 Flip Oakes XF |
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tuningbell470 Regular Member
Joined: 16 Sep 2015 Posts: 23 Location: London
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:58 am Post subject: |
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I'm a classically oriented student (focus on orchestral stuff with some chamber music thrown in. Very occasionally do musical theatre things)
My order is: Bb, C, Piccolo, Eb/D, Natural trumpet, cornet, flugel
There are periods when I play C as my main instrument but otherwise the order remains the same _________________ Trumpeting in progress
Spencer Heavyweight Bb
Stomvi Elite D/Eb
Yamaha Chicago C Gen 2
Yamaha 6810 Bb/A Piccolo |
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time_is_mula Regular Member
Joined: 16 Feb 2018 Posts: 41 Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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I thought this topic was about horns ranked by importance not horns ranked by trumpet type. I was hoping for a discussion on the most important trumpets (b-flat of course) ranked by brand, model, and etc. |
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huntman10 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 30 Aug 2017 Posts: 692 Location: Texas South Plains
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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OK, for specifics: back BC (before COVID) I was Eb cornet chair in a Brass Band for the last 5 or 6 years, so first and foremost, Eb Schilke cornet, some frequent feature numbers on my Kanstul 920 Bb Pic, and whatever Bb I was inspired to dig out for the community band (for example, Strad ML 37 trumpet for more serious work on the Christmas concert, an early 50's Blessing Artist Stencil for our swing concert, my Bb Strad 37 cornet for the march concert) and for 1 German festival concert my Getzen 4 valve flugelhorn. Howzat?
Oh, wait, back in '92 I did the 4th trumpet part for Stravinsky's Rite of Spring on my Strad bass trumpet! And once per year I play "Via Dolorosa" on a Bach F Mellophone for a church Maundy Thursday service. Does that count?
But I just play for fun, or to test horns before I put 'em up on eBay! _________________ huntman10
Collector/Player of Fine (and not so fine) Brass Instruments including
Various Strads, Yammies, Al Hirt Courtois, Schilkes,
Selmer 25, Getzen Eternas, Kanstuls (920 Pic, CG)
Martin Custom Large Bore, Lots Olds!, Conns, etc. |
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