Best horn for the job

_dcstep · Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 9:28 am Post subject:

I doubt that anyone at Berkley will be worried about the brand of horn he plays, just how he sounds.

Dave
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etownfwd · Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 5:51 pm Post subject:

Maybe instead of getting two cheaper horns for 2500, you should just look into a good horn that can handle both lead and solo sounds. I do agree with the Lawler poster. Lawlers are some fabulous horns and are also VERY versatile. However, and I run the risk of sounding like Liad Bar-El when I say that Taylor horns were (when I last played one about 4 years ago) pretty sweet sounding horns that also could be played as lead horns. My last suggestion is the Chicago Brass Works
http://www.chicagobrassworks.com/trumpets.htm
Wayne Tanabe is a great technician who is also a wonderful artist when is comes to designing horns. Best of luck and keep on practicing.
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bent trumpet · Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 12:08 pm Post subject:

I would also suggest the Lawler STS. You can have several different bells that are easy to change to the style you are required to play. I love the sounds the Lawler can produce with the various bells.

2LIP · Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 1:05 pm Post subject:

So far, these are great suggestions. I agree with one above that you should consider the Kanstuls. Many options to choose from and you won't find a better value. My 2 jazz favorites are the ZKT1500 and ZKT1600. The ZKT1500 is dark and sweet. The ZKT 1600 has some similar characteristics in the staff but can also light up big as you ascend above the staff. Not too bright, but enough to cut over amplified instruments or a big band.

Don't pass up an opportunity to play anything! Try the Wild Thangs, Lawlers, Selmer 80J or Paris Concept TT. All are great horns. Find what works for you and your budget.

The LIP

Leatherlip · Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 2:08 pm Post subject:

There are alot of Great Suggestions out here. A few years ago, I was looking for a different sound, and also a fun horn. I followed Tom's suggestion and tried a Silver W.T. and haven't looked back, except to find a W.T. Short Cornet, and Flip Oakes C.

At that time, I had tried Schilke B1L, B6Lb, S42, Calicchio 1S-2, 3-9, 1S-7, Bach 43, and a few older Olds Recording horns. These are all GREAT horns, and I still own many of them. But for me, now, I'm enjoying the heck out of all the WT horns.

Surround yourself with as many quality horns as you can, as you will be the last true judge.

Enjoy the Trip.
Bill

giakara · Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 5:33 am Post subject:

Selmer chorus 80J

_dcstep · Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 6:48 am Post subject:

Yes, the 80J is an amazing horn. Despite sharing a valve block, bell and bore size, the 80J and Concept TT are different. So, I suggest that prospects try both, if at all possible. Unfortunately, both are pretty hard to find in stock.

I may borrow an 80J from my local horn pusher so that I can give a more considered explanation as to the differences between the 80J and TT.

Dave
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melikejazz · New Member Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 10

so i'm sittin on the computer looking for players who play on these types of horns. I come across a site that says, not verbatum, but jazz players playing on these large born horns usually end-up with a case of TMJ Tempro-Mandibular-Joint (pains in the jaw). This can cause really bad head aches and jaw problems.....Uuuhh, WT horns are big bore. I'm gonna be playing most of my life....i don't want TMJ. How should i manage my playing on these professional insturments. Being this is my first great horn.

_dcstep · Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 5:32 pm Post subject:

Huh? Large bore equals TMJ!That sounds like a load of crap to me. Why would you hold or stress your jaw differently just because your played a large bore horn. I'd like to read that site. Could you share the URL with us?

Dave
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melikejazz · New Member Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 10

http://www.tmjsolutions.com/causetmj.html
-- That's it. It "say's" that playing musical instruments causes TMJ.

_dcstep · Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 3:08 pm Post subject:

I don't see anything about large bore trumpets and jazz having anything to do with TMJ. That's a dentist's website where he lists some "possible" causes of TMJ, including unusual protrusions of the jaw. I wouldn't worry about it. It's just advertising BS, not any kind of scientific study.

BTW, melikejazz you're incredibly loose in your paraphrasing of the article.

Dave
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aldir13 · Regular Member Joined: 29 Jul 2003 Posts: 22

schilke B1 is the winner
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melikejazz · New Member Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 10

i'll need to work on that.