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Trumpetingbynurture Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 5:29 pm Post subject: La Tromba Valve Oil |
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Just a heads up that this stuff is *great*.
In the past, I've used the Yamaha oil, Al Cass Fast, and Ultra Pure. This stuff (The T2 option) is way better IMO. Faster valves that never seem to stick... ever? It also doesn't seem to evaporate. I've been lazy and gone two weeks without reapplying without any sign of sluggishness.
Am using it on a Kanstul, a Carol and a Yamaha, all with equal results.
Worth trying out if you're not totally satisfied with your current oil |
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LaTrompeta Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 May 2015 Posts: 867 Location: West Side, USA
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:32 am Post subject: |
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I'm interested in trying La Tromba T3. |
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lewins Regular Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:46 am Post subject: |
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I had my horns cleaned at ITG, and the tech recommended T2, and I've been very happy with it. I was using Al Cass before that, and it's definitely higher viscosity and lasts much longer. I also like the longer neck for applying down in the valves. Incidentally, the only oil that the tech didn't recommend was Blue Juice. He said he's seen a lot of horns with build-up that used that oil. |
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Lape New Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds interesting. Have to get one. |
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patdublc Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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I have used T2 exclusively on my horns for several years. Works good for me. _________________ Pat Shaner
Play Wedge Mouthpieces by Dr. Dave exclusively.
Experiment with LOTS of horn makes and models. |
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Trumpetingbynurture Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Nov 2015 Posts: 898
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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lewins wrote: | I had my horns cleaned at ITG, and the tech recommended T2, and I've been very happy with it. I was using Al Cass before that, and it's definitely higher viscosity and lasts much longer. I also like the longer neck for applying down in the valves. Incidentally, the only oil that the tech didn't recommend was Blue Juice. He said he's seen a lot of horns with build-up that used that oil. |
Good to know about the blue juice.
I think you're right that it's a little thicker, but it doesn't seem at all to slow the valve stroke or create any sluggishness even with very tight tolerance valves.
I don't see myself changing oil anytime soon now. Actually, I just ordered some more. |
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giakara Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 3832 Location: Greece
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:29 pm Post subject: Re: La Tromba Valve Oil |
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Trumpetingbynurture wrote: | Just a heads up that this stuff is *great*.
In the past, I've used the Yamaha oil, Al Cass Fast, and Ultra Pure. This stuff (The T2 option) is way better IMO. Faster valves that never seem to stick... ever? It also doesn't seem to evaporate. I've been lazy and gone two weeks without reapplying without any sign of sluggishness.
Am using it on a Kanstul, a Carol and a Yamaha, all with equal results.
Worth trying out if you're not totally satisfied with your current oil |
Welcome to the club , I use T2 since 2005 to all my horns.
Regards _________________ Lawler TL5-1A Bb 2015
Lawler TL6-1A Bb 2004
Lawler TL5-1A Bb 2003
Getzen eterna 910 C
Getzen eterna 850 cornet
Selmer Paris 3 valve picc
Yamaha 731 flugel
Carol mini pocket
Reeves/Purviance mpcs |
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ABQCobb Regular Member
Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Posts: 54 Location: NY,NY
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:12 am Post subject: |
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I'm interested in trying this. But is this oil synthetic? Just curious.
I've been trying to find the answer to this without success. |
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 8914 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:18 am Post subject: |
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I've been using T2 for several years and am a big fan. I like it because it lasts like mad and never binds. The oils I like least are the ones that don't last and then hang up. That said it's not as fast as some other oils and it really becomes an issue on horns with particularly tight valves like my Kanstul picc and Yamaha flugel. For those horns I've been using Blue Juice and just dealing with having to reoil relatively often. Aside from not lasting nearly as long as T2, I've not had any problems with Blue Juice.
I've just recently been gifted a bottle of T3 that I've been evaluating for some months now. It seems to work about as well as T2 and is noticeably faster. It also seems to work on horns with tighter valves though I haven't tested that nearly as thoroughly. _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
Charles J Heiden/So Cal
Bach Strad 180ML43*/43 Bb/Yamaha 731 Flugel/Benge 1X C/Kanstul 920 Picc/Conn 80A Cornet
Bach 3C rim on 1.5C underpart |
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LaTrompeta Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:48 am Post subject: |
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ABQCobb wrote: | I'm interested in trying this. But is this oil synthetic? Just curious.
I've been trying to find the answer to this without success. |
Yes, I believe it is 100% synthetic. It's manufactured by a company in Switzerland, although I can't remember the name off the top of my head. |
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Trumpetingbynurture Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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ABQCobb wrote: | I'm interested in trying this. But is this oil synthetic? Just curious.
I've been trying to find the answer to this without success. |
I think there are very few valve oils on the market today that aren't synthetic. I don't outright know, but I doubt it is any different in this regard. |
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Trumpetingbynurture Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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ABQCobb wrote: | I'm interested in trying this. But is this oil synthetic? Just curious.
I've been trying to find the answer to this without success. |
I think there are very few valve oils on the market today that aren't synthetic. I don't outright know, but I doubt it is any different in this regard.
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"Silicone-Based Synthetic Oil"
http://www.brass-fix.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=32&osCsid=hkc54kh5qph9sb1niq79aru1m6 |
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BobD Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Dec 2004 Posts: 1251 Location: Boston MA
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:23 am Post subject: |
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How do you choose between their oils?
Do you use the T3, which is ultra-thin, on new horns with close tolerance valves like a Yamaha and the T2 on horns that are not considered close tolerance? _________________ Adams/ACB collaborative
Yamaha Shew Jazz and Bach 7C |
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 8914 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:23 am Post subject: |
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BobD wrote: | How do you choose between their oils?
Do you use the T3, which is ultra-thin, on new horns with close tolerance valves like a Yamaha and the T2 on horns that are not considered close tolerance? |
That's what I've found. I favor the T2 on horns that tolerate it but respect the valves could still be faster. T3 is the only choice for tight valves. _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
Charles J Heiden/So Cal
Bach Strad 180ML43*/43 Bb/Yamaha 731 Flugel/Benge 1X C/Kanstul 920 Picc/Conn 80A Cornet
Bach 3C rim on 1.5C underpart |
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daveduder New Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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I love T2. I also use T3 for Schilke valves.
Has anyone used the normal "T1" oil? Seems like T2 is much more popular. _________________ Trumpet Addict |
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Crazy Finn Heavyweight Member
Joined: 27 Dec 2001 Posts: 8336 Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota
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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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lewins wrote: | I had my horns cleaned at ITG, and the tech recommended T2, and I've been very happy with it. I was using Al Cass before that, and it's definitely higher viscosity and lasts much longer. I also like the longer neck for applying down in the valves. Incidentally, the only oil that the tech didn't recommend was Blue Juice. He said he's seen a lot of horns with build-up that used that oil. |
Agreed. Blue Juice is terrible. _________________ LA Benge 3X Bb Trumpet
Selmer Radial Bb Trumpet
Yamaha 6335S Bb Trumpet
Besson 709 Bb Trumpet
Bach 184L Bb Cornet
Yamaha 731 Bb Flugelhorn |
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theslawdawg Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Oct 2008 Posts: 843 Location: Waikiki, Hawaii
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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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Crazy Finn wrote: | lewins wrote: | I had my horns cleaned at ITG, and the tech recommended T2, and I've been very happy with it. I was using Al Cass before that, and it's definitely higher viscosity and lasts much longer. I also like the longer neck for applying down in the valves. Incidentally, the only oil that the tech didn't recommend was Blue Juice. He said he's seen a lot of horns with build-up that used that oil. |
Agreed. Blue Juice is terrible. |
Thank you for this. I have blue juice and have not been thrilled. _________________ My go-to Trumpet and Flugel: Thane.
Greg Black MPs |
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Trumpetingbynurture Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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It's been about 6 months or so since I started using T2 on my horns and it's still working great for me! |
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thomasjet123 Regular Member
Joined: 10 Feb 2018 Posts: 16 Location: Yorkshire, England
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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I have always been a user of La tromba T2 and recommend it to everyone I can. I have used other valve oils such as blue juice but find that they aren't half as good as La tromba. |
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napoorsocapo Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 4:46 am Post subject: |
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I use T3 on a 1996 trumpet used enough. Perfect, very smooth pistons. A few drops and only at the bottom of the piston. |
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