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teacherdad Regular Member
Joined: 20 Jan 2012 Posts: 27 Location: Baltimore, MD
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:33 pm Post subject: Question on Sachse |
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Just got Sachse's 100 Studies in the mail. Immediately baffled on the particulars of transposition on, for example, the first study. It's in F-Maj, starting and ending on F below the staff. It also says "Transpose to C, D, Eflat, E and F".
My questions: If it's written in F, why does it say to transpose to ... F".
And, if the intent is to transpose FROM F down to E, Eflat, etc, that would imply either going a major-7th UP or a halfstep down, right?! But a halfstep down would be third space E in the bass clef, a note a Bb trumpet doesn't quite typically play. At least excluding pedal tones, right?
How should I view this for best practice? Where have I misinterpretted it?
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Andy Del Heavyweight Member
Joined: 30 Jun 2005 Posts: 2665 Location: sunny Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:16 am Post subject: |
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These are the Transpositions, not the key into which you are playing. C is up a tone, E up a tri tone, etc. F transposition is up a 5th. _________________ so many horns, so few good notes...
Last edited by Andy Del on Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:23 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Dayton Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Mar 2013 Posts: 2046 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:41 am Post subject: |
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The idea is to pretend that the exercise is written for a trumpet keyed in C, D, Eb, E or F. You'll see that quite often with orchestra parts: Your Bach part might say "For Trumpet in D" on it, your Dvorak part might say "in E" and your Mahler part might say "in F."
You need to think about the relationship between the key the part is written in -- in C, in D, etc. -- and the key of your horn. If you are using a C trumpet, you'd imagine the C scale and where the key of the part -- in C, in D, in F, etc. -- would fall on that scale. So, in C would mean to play it as written. In D would mean play it up a major second (full step)...in F would mean to play it up a fourth.
Thus, for exercise #1 on C trumpet, when Sachse says to transpose in C, you'd play as written. Transpose in D means that you'd play the exercise up a full step because D is a full step above C. Your first note would be a low G, and you'd be playing a G major scale in that first measure. If you played it transposed in F, your first note would be a low Bb and you would be playing the Bb scale in that measure.
If you are playing exercise #1 on a Bb trumpet as if the exercise was written in C, you would transpose up a full step (major second) because C is a full step above Bb. Your first note for exercise #1 would be a low G, and you'd be playing a G major scale in that first measure.
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JayKosta Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Dec 2018 Posts: 3309 Location: Endwell NY USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:32 am Post subject: |
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ah ha ...
Play to make the sound (pitch) of the 'written notes' be as when using a
'trumpet in xx'.
edit - with the 'written notes' assumed to be for Trumpet in Bb. _________________ Most Important Note ? - the next one !
KNOW (see) what the next note is BEFORE you have to play it.
PLAY the next note 'on time' and 'in rhythm'.
Oh ya, watch the conductor - they set what is 'on time'. |
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