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Mike Prestage
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It might seem authoritative but I'd strongly advise against switching to a wider mouthpiece based on that text! Good to see in your post from March that things were improving - is the risk of cracking still enough of a concern that you're looking for specific solutions to it?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caruso exercise recommendations are interesting but I am more in favor of Caruso emphasis on counting. For a note, even the first note played all the muscles of the embouchure have to be in the right position. Getting them there at the right time is like a dance, requiring coordination. This is achieved by counting, even subdivided counting before playing starts
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike Prestage wrote:
It might seem authoritative but I'd strongly advise against switching to a wider mouthpiece based on that text! Good to see in your post from March that things were improving - is the risk of cracking still enough of a concern that you're looking for specific solutions to it?

Mike

Yes I am getting much better. I still have surprise chips every once in a while. I believe the breath control mentioned in the post to be a culprit, and still have chips but much less frequently. I went to see the Pittsburgh Symphony and the first chair during his solo chipped a note so it happens. But the advice here has been invaluable.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jerry Freedman wrote:
Caruso exercise recommendations are interesting but I am more in favor of Caruso emphasis on counting. For a note, even the first note played all the muscles of the embouchure have to be in the right position. Getting them there at the right time is like a dance, requiring coordination. This is achieved by counting, even subdivided counting before playing starts


I like this. I have noticed a little bit that I am not "ready" to play the opening note even though I know what note is coming. The above looks to have identified a problem and the solution all at once. Thank you.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jerry Freedman wrote:
... For a note, even the first note played all the muscles of the embouchure have to be in the right position. Getting them there at the right time ...

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I view this as being ready to 'pronounce' the note.
I think it is a useful term because it is 'active' and implies 'precision of execution'.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That kind of insight can only come from the Baroch era. Thank you.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

enviroman22 wrote:
I went to see the Pittsburgh Symphony and the first chair during his solo chipped a note so it happens.


That's a really valuable insight. It's usually easier to develop your playing if you're comfortable accepting that sometimes you're going to miss!

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again all.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:25 pm    Post subject: I found out the best answer Reply with quote

I found out how to stop the blurps. I had an old 1969 Bach Stradivarius C 239 bell serial no. 37xxx (no leadpipe mark) lying around in great shape for decades I had never played. I have a 196B Bach Strad Bb Model 37 with a 43 leadpipe that I played, fluently as a kid. I played it pretty well after comeback but didn't want to venture out with it. So I played Schilke MII's with great success, but some blurps. I like them for their clarity and projection. I decided to switch to the C trumpet for fun and bought a 1981 Bach Strad 43 LP 239 bell serial no. 1661XX. No blurps. It's perfect for me. It's the trumpet, for me, not the technique. My blurps are gone. I did find on the Schilke and most of my horns OVERpreparing for a gig took the blurps away too. Thanks all for indulging me and for your invaluable tips about "meaning what you play" and "make it happen". But this horn? It's the trick for me. Also interestingly the advice that "if you play well with it, take it out." I never experienced that before. It's made a great difference.
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