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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:37 am    Post subject: Repair Forum? Removing Dents... Reply with quote

Are there any forums or websites dedicated to repairing and restoring vintage brass instruments? If so, please post links. I have done various kinds of metalworking for decades, and I am just getting into restoring old horns.

Currently, I am looking for suggestions on how to get small dents out of the valve slides. I have some ideas, but I'd like to hear from the experts.

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NAPBIRT - National Assoc. of Ban Instrument Repair Technicians, is a worthwhile organization. They have an archive of their journal, online clinics, and they are back to holding in-person workshops.
I have an article on restoration coming out in the July-Aug. journal.
I believe they have a lower membership rate for non-professionals.
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yourbrass wrote:
NAPBIRT - National Assoc. of Ban Instrument Repair Technicians, is a worthwhile organization. They have an archive of their journal, online clinics, and they are back to holding in-person workshops.
I have an article on restoration coming out in the July-Aug. journal.
I believe they have a lower membership rate for non-professionals.
-Lionel


Thanks! I'll check them out.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Brass and Woodwind Shop has a lot of helpful videos on You Tube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb-BE_Ibi0Y&list=PLtJyi3RgtJ2vsgya-tSnDWOb4kFrLX7RA
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 2:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Repair Forum? Removing Dents... Reply with quote

bessonneophite609 wrote:
Are there any forums or websites dedicated to repairing and restoring vintage brass instruments? If so, please post links. I have done various kinds of metalworking for decades, and I am just getting into restoring old horns.

Currently, I am looking for suggestions on how to get small dents out of the valve slides. I have some ideas, but I'd like to hear from the experts.

Thanks!


While it is far from "dedicated to" your topic, you would probably benefit from Robb Stewart's site. https://www.robbstewart.com/
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go for it !
Check back in five years...........

After getting $4,000.00 worth of tools, ruining several horns you will be on your way !

I know of what I speak...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A.N.A.Mendez wrote:
Go for it !
Check back in five years...........

After getting $4,000.00 worth of tools, ruining several horns you will be on your way !

I know of what I speak... :-)


HA!

Now don't be discouraging, as long as the OP works on junk instruments, of which there are thousands, all will be well.

Just to relate a short story of one of my early repair experiences:

In the first year or two after I apprenticed to my colleague at his old shop in San Mateo, CA, I rebuilt my first trumpet. It was a Conn 6B Victor, and I was really proud of my work after assembling the horn. Only problem was when I went to pull the tuning slide - I had soldered it shut!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yourbrass wrote:
A.N.A.Mendez wrote:
Go for it !
Check back in five years...........

After getting $4,000.00 worth of tools, ruining several horns you will be on your way !

I know of what I speak...


HA!

Now don't be discouraging, as long as the OP works on junk instruments, of which there are thousands, all will be well.

Just to relate a short story of one of my early repair experiences:

In the first year or two after I apprenticed to my colleague at his old shop in San Mateo, CA, I rebuilt my first trumpet. It was a Conn 6B Victor, and I was really proud of my work after assembling the horn. Only problem was when I went to pull the tuning slide - I had soldered it shut!


I hear ya. Nothing teaches like taking it apart and starting over.....,
I think getting various tools, balls and mandrills stuck was an early frustration, cracking slide crooks while removing dents, soldering one thing and another falls off, OY..........
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lots of good videos on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/c/TheBrassandWoodwindShop/featured

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtJyi3RgtJ2vsgya-tSnDWOb4kFrLX7RA

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuppULfQv9Zl0Xu11HB-HUw

Then of course you could get professional training.
http://badgerstatesupply.com/index.php?pg=training
http://redwingmusicrepair.org/
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yourbrass wrote:
A.N.A.Mendez wrote:
Go for it !
Check back in five years...........

After getting $4,000.00 worth of tools, ruining several horns you will be on your way !

I know of what I speak...


HA!

Now don't be discouraging, as long as the OP works on junk instruments, of which there are thousands, all will be well.

Just to relate a short story of one of my early repair experiences:

In the first year or two after I apprenticed to my colleague at his old shop in San Mateo, CA, I rebuilt my first trumpet. It was a Conn 6B Victor, and I was really proud of my work after assembling the horn. Only problem was when I went to pull the tuning slide - I had soldered it shut!


Yep. I'm no.stranger to climbing learning curves. Fixing horns is just my latest attempt at self-flagelation. I got an old Besson Stratford off eBay for next to nothing. If I ruin it, no big loss. If it turns out nicely, that will be a bonus.
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