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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2024 4:33 am    Post subject: Bach 3C cnc Reply with quote

I often read about complaints about the Bach 3C mouthpiece. In particular to the fact that it would be "suffocating". I have several Bach 3C CNCs, but I don't find them stuffy at all. I find them excellent mouthpieces. Does anyone think like me?
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2024 5:11 am    Post subject: Re: Bach 3C cnc Reply with quote

annvill wrote:
Does anyone think like me?

Yes.

I don't play a Bach 3C these days, but I have several (including from the CNC era) and I have never encountered one that I would call stuffy.
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2024 7:08 am    Post subject: Re: Bach 3C cnc Reply with quote

annvill wrote:
I often read about complaints about the Bach 3C mouthpiece. In particular to the fact that it would be "suffocating". I have several Bach 3C CNCs, but I don't find them stuffy at all. I find them excellent mouthpieces. Does anyone think like me?

Mouthpieces are a very personal thing. If it works for you, now, it works for you now.
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2024 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’ve had a few of the older (1980s) ones, and they are too shallow for my tastes. I believe they had the most shallow C cup that Bach made. Are the newer ones a bit deeper? I bought a Curry 3C. mouthpiece, which is slightly deeper than the Bach, in 1999 and sold my Bach 3C shortly afterward.
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2024 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The same mouthpiece can interact very differently with two different faces/embouchures. And that's before you get into match with the horn, etc. If you like yours, I wouldn't worry about it.

The Bach 3C is about as middle-of-the-road as mouthpieces get, which makes them extremely popular. Probably only the 7C is more widely used worldwide. With something that common, you will necessarily see a lot of opinions about it both positive and negative, simply because most people have tried one.
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2024 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just for comparison, wrap your head in Saran wrap and see which is more "suffocating."
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2024 6:52 am    Post subject: Re: Bach 3C cnc Reply with quote

Halflip wrote:
annvill wrote:
Does anyone think like me?

Yes.

I don't play a Bach 3C these days, but I have several (including from the CNC era) and I have never encountered one that I would call stuffy.



The most used term is "suffocating".
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2024 8:31 am    Post subject: Re: Bach 3C cnc Reply with quote

annvill wrote:
Halflip wrote:
I don't play a Bach 3C these days, but I have several (including from the CNC era) and I have never encountered one that I would call stuffy.



The most used term is "suffocating".

You yourself said (in your original post), "I have several Bach 3C CNCs, but I don't find them stuffy at all." I was just using one of the terms you used. Is that a problem? I'm not sure I understand the point of your reply.

If I don't find them stuffy, I'm pretty sure you can assume that I don't find them "suffocating".
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2024 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some decades ago I played a Bach 3C and liked it well enough. That was until I played a 1.5C and found I liked that sound even better.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2024 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheiden wrote:
Some decades ago I played a Bach 3C and liked it well enough. That was until I played a 1.5C and found I liked that sound even better.


Yes, the 1-1/2C gives a much nicer tone, and unless you’re playing a lot of above the staff stuff, isn’t really much more demanding than playing a 3C, at least in my experience.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2024 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too used a 3C for a while and moved to a 1 1/2C for the sound I was able to produce. Never thought the 3C was suffocating.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2024 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's much more likely the multitude of 180-37s on the back end of the 3C that are stuffy.

That being said, I've recently plugged a Pickett YA3 into my 180-37 and it's a very nice match.
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