Good semi-pro/ intermediate all around playing horn?

Welk · Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 12:11 pm Post subject:

any suggestion for about 800-1000$ budget.... used semi-pro or new intermediate horn?
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_dcstep · Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 12:42 pm Post subject:

The Yamaha 6310Z is an extremely versatile horn in that price range. With the release of the 8310Zs almost here, the old models have become a real bargain. At one point, Washington Music was selling new Zs at $850. I think that they sold out.

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Chaser · Veteran Member Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 441

You can get great deals on Besson Internationals on eBay. It is a intermediate level that many think is as good as a lower level pro horn.

DaveH · Heavyweight Member Joined: 20 Nov 2001 Posts: 3861

Although I have no personal experience with Jupiter, I keep hearing about how good the new Jupiter XO Tribune trumpet is supposed to be. The Woodwind and Brasswind has those for $789, I believe. There is a recent thread here about the XO horn.

Also, you might look for a Getzen Eterna.

trumpetmike · Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 3:39 pm Post subject:

If that price is accurate on the XO - go for it - a superb trumpet. Played one at the end of last year, very impressed.

For that money it will be very hard to beat.

DaveH · Heavyweight Member Joined: 20 Nov 2001 Posts: 3861

Is the XO the same as the Model 1200S? if so, that is the correct selling price from the Fall/Winter WWBW 2003 catalog...

The 1200S is the listed professional Jupiter model. It is called a Tribune, I believe. There is also a model with an upturned bell.

Nonsense Eliminator · Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 4:36 pm Post subject:

For $800-1000 you can easily find a good used Bach or Yamaha. Either of those options would be FAR, FAR superior to any intermediate or quasi-professional instrument. Intermediate instruments are the biggest rip-off going, DO NOT buy one.

the chief · Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 4:42 pm Post subject:

I agree. Intermediate horns, although not necessarily bad, are nothing more then Student-horns with extra features.

I've been hearing ALOT of good praise about the Kanstul KTR 700. Hand made, plays as good as or better then a Bach Strad, and the silver-plated sells for $650.

http://www.kanstul.net/images/instruments/kmodel/ktr700m.jpg

Arainach · Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 6:02 pm Post subject:

Find a used Olds. (Not the horns currently being produced under that name. The Olds Super, Recording, Opera, Ambassador, Mendez, etc. - search the forums a bit for a complete list). I've played Ambassador trumpets and cornets, and a Recording and Super trumpet. The Ambassadors played better than any student lines I've ever seen (even Yamaha student models, which are pretty good). Their Pro models (everything else) are all wonderful all-around horns. I don't think I've ever seen one reach $800. Wonderful horns, and in terms of bang for the buck, probably the best around.

Annie · Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 6:08 pm Post subject:

Heck, my bach strad only had a price tag of $999! And it plays pretty well!
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Lo · Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 6:08 pm Post subject:

Hi!

I agree with one of the posters above. You could buy a used Pro Horn for the same amount of money. Or if like me, Just playing recreational and don't have that kind of money go for a Kanstul! The 700 is good. I have the 900 which I love and my teacher loved playing it aswell. So good luck!

_ConnMan · Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 6:59 pm Post subject:

The Kanstul 700 is an awsome horn for the money! I've played several 700, all were consistant, and was I impressed with all of them, too. Personally, I think they give you the "Best Bang For Your Buck". No ill intent to you Lo, but I kind of like the 700's over the 900's personally myself, that's just my opinion. Please don't take that personally.

As for pricing of the 700's, I THINK 700 in Lacquer goes for around $650 and the 700 in silver goes between $725-$750. I know Pair of Kings (PiCK Music) has several in stock at her shop and would be glad to ship you one out if you're serious. I'd give her a call and talk with her on the exact pricing and any questions: http://www.PiCKmusic.net

Good Luck,
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_dcstep · Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 7:18 pm Post subject:

The Jupiter XO Tribune is a pro horn, not an intermediate.

Dave
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_dcstep · Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 7:23 pm Post subject:

plankowner110 · Heavyweight Member Joined: 12 Jun 2003 Posts: 3621

I recommend either a new Yamaha 6310Z or a new King Silver Flair 2055T, depending on the type of trumpet you want.
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Downunder · Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 9:46 pm Post subject:

Hello,

I tried sending you a private message but there appears to be a problem with your email. I was doing this to avoid the inevitable posts by a small minority around here who have nothing better to do!

HOWEVER

http://www.zacharymusic.com/Zachary_Music/NewTrumpets.htm

If you do a search on the Trumpet Herald you will find all sorts of things written about ZeuS, however I'll save you the time and say that those who have actually played the trumpets agree they are excellent value for money.

The ZeuS Guarnerius trumpets start at US$950 brand new and they are a very good instrument.

I am a ZeuS dealer here in Australia so can't help you out, however if you look at the dealers listed on the home page for Zachary Music you may find one who is near you and can give you one to try. Alternatively, the shop is in Windsor Ontario (and I've no idea how far that is from you!!)

All the best,

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_swthiel · Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 3:58 am Post subject:

Let me add a "second" to some of the suggestions above. I would check in to a used Strad, Kanstul horns, or a ZeuS G. I have a Strad and a Kanstul Chicago and love them both. I've never tried a ZeuS, but the majority of the reviews I've read have been pretty good, you'd need to try one out and see how you like it. Another alternative would be to hunt for a used Olds on ebay -- Rich Willey (BeboppinFool) swears by them. Depending on what options you want, you might be able to get any one of these horns for under US$1000.

If you're going the Kanstul route, I second the suggestion to contact PiCK Music. You can reach Priscilla here by PM-ing "PiCK Kanstul" on this very web site. If you go the ZeuS route, make sure you understand the total cost you might incur if you purchase a horn on a trial basis.

I don't have any experience with the Yamaha horns, so I can't make any fair comments about them pro or con.

Happy Hunting,

Steve
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