Help me find a horn (Oh, lord, pleease!)

[kehaulani]

O.K. last question on this. Promise.

What do you consider the lightest modern Goldilocks horns?

For those immediately thinking "Bobby Shew" model, I already had one and thought the sound was a little "unsubstantial". For comparison, I would consider the Bach 190-37 as the ideal. I like the light weight of the former and the deepth of sound of the latter.

Use of the horn would be Wind Ensemble, Big Band and jazz combo. I would want to blend in the band sections and play darker solo horn in combo.

Budget is $4,000.00 tops.

Thanks.
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Yamaha 8310Z Bobby Shew trumpet
Benge 3X Trumpet
Benge 3X Cornet
Adams F-1 Flghn

[blownchops]

Yamaha 8335R. Current gen. Mine is the lightest horn I currently horn, though billed as a "heavyweight" horn for some reason.

They are pretty light, have a great sound and play well. More ooph than an 8310z in my opinion. Common on the resale market for around 1600-2,000 in good shape.
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Bach 37

[Goby]

Go for a Schilke with the #1 bell (B1, B7, X3). It should work great for jazz stuff, and will be dark enough to play in a symphonic group. It’s lightweight and sounds “trumpety”, but has a nice dark sound. Mechanics and build quality are an obvious plus, and personally, I prefer the aesthetics to Yamaha.

[Halflip]

Maybe you should try an Edwards X-13. A lot of comments I see about that horn suggest that it has a surprisingly rich tonal palette for such a lightweight horn.
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[HaveTrumpetWillTravel]

Carolbrass 5000 is their top seller. I actually haven't tried it, but I think it's known both as lightweight and a good all-around player. I have the 506, which is a bit lighter than a 37. Stainless valves are lighter so I have heard many of the CB-block trumpets trend lighter.

[dstpt]

How about checking out the Adams A5? There are two in the Marketplace right now, and one ad states that it weighs 1lb 14oz. I guess most of the standard Bach and Yamaha Bb tpts are around 2lb 4oz or thereabouts, so that Adams model is definitely on the lighter side.

[Tivolian]

Scodwell Las Vegas. Light but still substantial. Amazingly lively gorgeous sound. Excellent horn in every way.
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[Seymor B Fudd]

The Yamaha 6335 RC! In Gold lacquer.
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Getzen 300 series
Yamaha YCRD2330II
Yamaha YCR6330II
Getzen Eterna Eb
Trumpets:
Yamaha 6335 RC Schilke 14B
King Super 20 Symphony DB (1970)
Selmer Eb/D trumpet (1974)

[yourbrass]

Schilke is very lightweight, and enough models to make a good choice from.
Edwards X-13, on the other hand, is one of the most comfortable grips I've ever played and not too heavy.
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Edwards X-13
ACB MV3C /ACB A1/26 backbore
https://yourbrass.com/

[delano]

Come on kehaulani, you know all the posts and all the posters here. You already know this stuff including all the answers you will get.

[Christian K. Peters]

Hello all,
Schilke B2 or B3. My B3 weighs in at 2 pounds, 1 1 ounces. My B2 2 pounds, 2.2 ounces. The medium bell projects well and the larger bore of the B3 can be warmer and has a great upper register with a little moe gas or mouthpiece choice.
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[pc2001197]

The Blackburn with Yamaha Miyashiro bell I just posted on marketplace is pretty killer and even though not too light, is very nimble.
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Victor
n+1 and counting
VY Trumpets

[kehaulani]

[JayKosta]

If absolute minimum weight is required, then perhaps a plastic trumpet with a plastic / Lexan mouthpiece. The sound might not be 'best', but my understanding is that it still acceptable for amateur 'community band'.
I think the 'Coolwind' brand is considered to be decent.
http://www.coolwindmusic.com/single-page1.html

If the situation is having to give-up playing because of weight, then
'ya gotta take extreme measures'.
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PLAY the next note 'on time' and 'in rhythm'.
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[Brassnose]

The Germans are weighing piston horns at the moment, so there you go:

https://trompetenforum.de/TF/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=14643&start=270

If you go on the last page, there’s the most complete list … my pTrumpet is 500 g but it is an awkward grip and the valves are slow, so not recommended for real playing.

If it need not be a piston horn, there are rotary horns that are quite compact and lightweight:

https://www.haagston.at/btr-w1_brassego___modell_wien_kompakt-28032.htm

https://vogt-instruments.com/umbau-und-tuning/ Scroll down …

http://www.hm-trompeten.de/me/me_kt.htm
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1992 Bach 43GH/43
1989 Kühnl & Hoyer Model 15 flugel
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1977 Conn 6B
1951 Buescher 400 Lightweight
AR Resonance, Frate, Klier

[Shawnino]

Start here, or similar .
https://www.ergobrass.com/trumpet/

Play the horns you prefer.

[Jaw04]

[stuartissimo]

[Halflip]

[kehaulani]