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orenthal resets Regular Member
Joined: 18 May 2003 Posts: 45
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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Hi all
I love feels so good by Chuck Mangione. Everytime I hear it I feel so good. Does anyone else have a similar feeling.
Juice |
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Mr.Hollywood Heavyweight Member
Joined: 14 Dec 2002 Posts: 1730
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Why don't you post some of this funny sh!t on the Maynard Ferguson Forum.
The guys over there would love it.
I think its: http://www.maynard.ferguson.net |
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dwm1129 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 19 Feb 2002 Posts: 1065 Location: ... I'm lost
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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YES! I wish someone had started this thread sooner. It's a warm feeling ... like everything's right with the world. |
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jazz_trpt Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Nov 2001 Posts: 5734 Location: Savoy, Illinois, USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 7:59 am Post subject: |
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It's the same feeling I get when I hear the theme from "The Love Boat"... _________________ Jeff Helgesen
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adieste Veteran Member
Joined: 08 Sep 2003 Posts: 113 Location: Sonora, CA
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 9:22 am Post subject: |
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Okay, so I'm gonna go against the grain here, but...
a) Chuck Mangione is technically a very good player, and an amazing composer-arranger.
b) He himself will tell you he doesn't improvise, but transcribes his solos and plays them note-for-note (quite well, IMHO)
c) He introduced the non-musical radio-listening public to the flugelhorn
d) He introduced a whole new audience to jazz with his pop tunes, and (years before the fact) opened the doors for guys like post-Sting Chris Botti, and post-TOP Greg Adams
e) He runs with a pretty good crowd, guys like Marv Stamm and Lew Soloff
f) At least he's not Kenny G! (although he is an amazing player in his own right) _________________ Trumpet: 1975 Benge CG, 1964 Martin Committee
Flugelhorn: 1963 and 1973 Olds L-12
Cornet: 1895 Conn Wonder, 1915 Buescher 57C
Pocket Trumpet: Funky No-Name Thing
Alto Sax: 1965 Buescher Aristocrat
Tenor Sax: 1956 Buffet Crampon Paris |
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jkramb19 Veteran Member
Joined: 16 Mar 2002 Posts: 365
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 11:51 am Post subject: |
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adieste,
Not an improviser? how many not improvisers have you heard playing with Art Blakey and the jazz messengers, and kickin ass with them at that?
I personally dont like "Feels So Good" but im not sure you exactly know what you're talking about. _________________ Don't practice until you get it right, practice until you can't get it wrong.
"The harder you work, the harder it is to surrender." Vince Lombardi |
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HorneyMikey Veteran Member
Joined: 18 Jun 2003 Posts: 325
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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I read the text of an interview somebody did recently with Mangione, and he said that "Feels so Good" put both his kids through college.
Sounds like he did ok to me..................
Mike |
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adieste Veteran Member
Joined: 08 Sep 2003 Posts: 113 Location: Sonora, CA
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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I had no idea that Chuck played with Art Blakey. Wow, that's worth a Ph.D. in music from any school. I stand corrected, as I could have sworn that Chuck pre-wrote solos, but this gives me a whole new level of respect for a guy I've always respected anyway! _________________ Trumpet: 1975 Benge CG, 1964 Martin Committee
Flugelhorn: 1963 and 1973 Olds L-12
Cornet: 1895 Conn Wonder, 1915 Buescher 57C
Pocket Trumpet: Funky No-Name Thing
Alto Sax: 1965 Buescher Aristocrat
Tenor Sax: 1956 Buffet Crampon Paris |
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jazz_trpt Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Nov 2001 Posts: 5734 Location: Savoy, Illinois, USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not a fan anymore, but he is due a few props. He was a member of the Art Blakey's Jazz Messengers (along with Keith Jarrett) when he still played trumpet. And contrary to what you may think, he was definitely improvising at that point, and doing it pretty well.
One of his best albums is "Tarentella" - not in print now, but an all-star lineup including Chick Corea, Dizzy Gillespie, Steve Gadd, etc. in a live setting. Definitely worth looking for. At one point in "Manteca" Mangione rips off a (pretty easy) Dizzy lick while trading fours with Diz, and you can hear the crowd crack up as Diz feigns indignation. Worth looking for.
Also his early Riverside albums with his brother Gap and Sal Nistico. *If* you're looking for jazz, and not the commercial stuff he was peddling for CBS in the 80s. _________________ Jeff Helgesen
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pfrank Heavyweight Member
Joined: 21 Feb 2002 Posts: 3523 Location: Boston MA
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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What a coincidence---I live in an apt. with roommates and last week after I'd been practicing for a bit I went into the kitchen for some food (that's where we keep it) and a roommate (who is a musician)(well, a guitarist songwriter...) asks me if I was playing that song by that Chuck (something) guy who was on King Of The Hill...?
I had NOT been playing that song.
Maybe I played the first few notes by chance and he supplied the "I can name that song in 3 notes"...I dunno...but I said "you mean this song"? and proceeded to sing it to him. It had been a long time! "Feels So Good" must be in the air... |
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jazz_trpt Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Nov 2001 Posts: 5734 Location: Savoy, Illinois, USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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"I shop at Mega-Lo-Mart because it...Feels So Good!" _________________ Jeff Helgesen
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Palestrina Veteran Member
Joined: 30 May 2002 Posts: 204 Location: California
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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If it weren't for that song, I wouldn't have played my first "A" in middle school a million years ago! How can you not like Chuck?! |
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dwm1129 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 19 Feb 2002 Posts: 1065 Location: ... I'm lost
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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Who else is going to teach us about fire safety? It isn't going to be Chris Botti, I tell you what .... Yup. |
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trjeam Heavyweight Member
Joined: 06 Nov 2001 Posts: 2072 Location: Edgewood, Maryland
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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I played the Chuck Mangione show for marching band last year and man I had the best time everytime that I would play that music.. It never gets too old.. I absoulutly loved playing the show, and it showed threw my playing because everyshow I would play it with so much fire and emotion.. One of the judges once said "there's only when person in the entire band that understands chuck mangione, and it's your lead trumpet"... chuck is the bomb... we even have his autographed picture in the band room. heheh. _________________ Jorge Ayala Jr: Trumpeter/Producer
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mark936 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 08 Apr 2002 Posts: 1254 Location: Riverside,Calyfornia
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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I love it when the radio station says, "And right after the break we'll hear from Chuck.... " All that good stuff and they play THAT! The shortened version without the pretty horn solo intro.
A couple Saturdays ago I went and heard Carl Saunders, Don Menza and Bill Reichenbach. I was mentioning to Carl that I had not heard of Don Menza since my College days back in the seventies.
Carl said, "I actually have it written in my contract that I will never be required to play "Groovin' Hard" or "Feelings" again.
I can't imagine him playing "Feels so Good" either.
I used to go see Chuck at the Universal Theatre once a year for about five years. |
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surfhorn Heavyweight Member
Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Posts: 982 Location: Aptos, CA
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 7:06 am Post subject: |
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As a young musician getting ready to start college, I found a white album at a discount store in 1971; It was a cat sitting on a folding chair playing a flugelhorn (I knew what a flugelhorn was but not exactly what it sounded like).
The feeling from Chuck's "Land of Make Believe" (before vocals were added...) really hooked me into how pretty jazz could be in a modern setting. I spent the next five years studying jazz in college, playing everything from Basie to Weather Report but "Land of Make Believe" was always a touchstone for me.
I was fortunetely enough to be the featured soloist with San Francisco State's big band when director Bennet Freidmand pulled out "Land..". We tore the chart up, with our best performance (fortunately) being recorded for local PBS tv.
I haven't been that big of a fan of his newer stuff. Those early 1970's recordings really showed Chuck's jazz chops. |
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trumpettyler Regular Member
Joined: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 84 Location: Raleigh, NC
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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Wanna talk about a coincidence... I decided to revisit my old cassette tapes and listen to some old stuff with a fresh perspective. I hadn't touched any of these for probably 10 years. I pulled out Feels So Good and threw it in the car to listen to on the way to work. This cassette was probably one of the first albums I ever had (along with Billy Joel's Glass Houses - can you guess my age?) I started playing trumpet in about 1981 or so, and this was very influential to me. Minor tragedy - when I put the 20 year old cassette in the tape deck, it got eaten on the second time through. Time to buy the CD!
I'm still dying to get a flugel. I found my best solos back in the high school jazz days were the flugel tunes. It was easy to hear Chuck in my head. _________________ Burned out young, but comin' back!
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jcmacman Heavyweight Member
Joined: 22 Oct 2003 Posts: 860 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 8:22 am Post subject: |
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I got my flugel because of Chuck back in the late 70's. I got to solo "Hill where the Lord Hides". Remember that one?
What about "Childern of Sanchez"? Love the bass trombones.
john
[ This Message was edited by: jcmacman on 2004-01-14 11:23 ] |
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BobList Heavyweight Member
Joined: 09 Nov 2002 Posts: 1104 Location: Baltimore, MD
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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Check out a video called "SASS and BRASS".....sarah Vaughn, Dizzy, Don Cherry, Chuck Mangione, and ...maybe Maynard..haven't seen it in like 12 years...but Chuck's definately on it, and his improv with those guys was freakin' great.....a whole new level of respect came outta that show.. Bob List |
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JohnnyB Regular Member
Joined: 20 Jul 2003 Posts: 51
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 7:02 am Post subject: |
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Yeah... Me and a guy here at school, we like to go to the music shop and play the first couple notes of feel so good to annoy the guys in the shop... its funny cause we'll come back for somethin legit later on and they'll be humming or whistling it.... suprising how that song gets in your head haha _________________ -*JB*-
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