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chapahi Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Sep 2005 Posts: 1467 Location: Stuttgart, Germany
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:53 am Post subject: Benge 6X |
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Can anyone tell me about the Benge 6X or Kanstul Burbank 6X trumpet. Is it versatile? Thanks in advance for any replies. _________________ Sima, Kanstul 1525 Flugel and Kanstul pocket trumpet. Olds Super |
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Tom LeCompte Heavyweight Member
Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 3341 Location: Naperville, Illinois
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:06 am Post subject: |
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It's as veritile as you are.
It's a large bore instrument from the LA era, with perhaps a handful made earlier in Burbank. |
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cbtj51 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Nov 2015 Posts: 725 Location: SE US
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:42 am Post subject: |
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My grandson saw this post and asked, "what's a 6X"? I told him that it's 1 louder than a 5X! Thank you Spinal Tap!
Mike _________________ '71 LA Benge 5X Bb
'72 LA Benge D/Eb
'76 Bach CL 229/25A C
‘92 Bach 37 Bb
'98 Getzen 895S Flugelhorn
'00 Bach 184 Cornet
'02 Yamaha 8335RGS
'16 Bach NY 7
'16 XO 1700RS Piccolo
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Tom LeCompte Heavyweight Member
Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 3341 Location: Naperville, Illinois
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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Ny that logic..."It goes to seven". |
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Goby Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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The Benge 6X mandrel was the large bore design dating back to the Chicago days. The bell is a little bit bigger than the 3X by physical volume and has a darker, more symphonic sound. Great all-around horns, but still a lightweight "west coast" style build. The CG model has a 6X bell with the famous .464" choke at the bell tail. A regular 6X should be .468" through the valves and bell tail, but it has the standard Benge leadpipe. |
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falado Heavyweight Member
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 942 Location: Eastern NC
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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Hi, the Benge 6X is versatile and great horn. I had one years ago that I used for everything from big band lead to wind ensemble in military bands and even in a local orchestra. I wish I had kept that horn, it did it all. I now have a 1975 Benge 6X in excellent shape, it’s a time capsule and has been blueprinted. However, I’m getting ready for grad school as a trumpet performance major and need different equipment, I put a down payment on a Thane Performance and will need more $ when it’s done. So, the Benge will be up for sale soon.
If you have a chance, try one.
Dave _________________ FA LA DO (Ab: V/ii) MUCS, USN (Ret.)
Stomvi VR (Reeves) with VR II Bell
Bach 239 25A C, Blueprinted
Bach 37, Early Elkhart, Blueprinted
Kanstul Flugel
Getzen 4 valve Pic.
Yamaha D/Eb
Besson Cornet |
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dershem Heavyweight Member
Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 1887 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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I have a bunch of horns, but I keep a 6 in the stable for doing rock gigs because it can back off and be mellow when needed, but can scream if you can fill it up. I've used it in the past for 'legit' gigs by just backing off and letting the sound calm down and darken up. Also (when I was younger) played CC's that could part your hair. Very flexible horn if you can fill it up. Still trying to find someone who will do a tuning-bell conversion on it for me. (Landress said he could, but then ghosted me). _________________ BKA! Mic Gillette was my mentor and friend.
Marcinkiewicz Mic G. trumpet, Custom Marcinkiewicz mpc. (Among others)
Marcinkiewicz Rembrandt flugel, Benge 8Z cornet, King 2B, Bach 36, Benge 190, Getzen 3062... many more. All Marc. mouthpieces. |
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Jon Arnold Heavyweight Member
Joined: 07 Jan 2002 Posts: 2025
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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dershem wrote: | I have a bunch of horns, but I keep a 6 in the stable for doing rock gigs because it can back off and be mellow when needed, but can scream if you can fill it up. I've used it in the past for 'legit' gigs by just backing off and letting the sound calm down and darken up. Also (when I was younger) played CC's that could part your hair. Very flexible horn if you can fill it up. Still trying to find someone who will do a tuning-bell conversion on it for me. (Landress said he could, but then ghosted me). |
Mike Del Quadro could for you. |
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shofarguy Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Sep 2007 Posts: 7012 Location: AZ
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 5:32 am Post subject: |
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dershem wrote: | I have a bunch of horns, but I keep a 6 in the stable for doing rock gigs because it can back off and be mellow when needed, but can scream if you can fill it up. I've used it in the past for 'legit' gigs by just backing off and letting the sound calm down and darken up. Also (when I was younger) played CC's that could part your hair. Very flexible horn if you can fill it up. Still trying to find someone who will do a tuning-bell conversion on it for me. (Landress said he could, but then ghosted me). |
dershem, I once had a conversation with Zig Kanstul that included something about tuning bell conversions. The only bit I remember is that he never found success converting a Benge trumpet to a tuning bell design. He didn't know why. He just said they didn't respond well to that modification.
Take that for what it's worth. _________________ Brian A. Douglas
Flip Oakes Wild Thing Bb Trumpet in copper
Flip Oakes Wild Thing Flugelhorn in copper
There is one reason that I practice: to be ready at the downbeat when the final trumpet sounds. |
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dershem Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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Jon Arnold wrote: | dershem wrote: | I have a bunch of horns, but I keep a 6 in the stable for doing rock gigs because it can back off and be mellow when needed, but can scream if you can fill it up. I've used it in the past for 'legit' gigs by just backing off and letting the sound calm down and darken up. Also (when I was younger) played CC's that could part your hair. Very flexible horn if you can fill it up. Still trying to find someone who will do a tuning-bell conversion on it for me. (Landress said he could, but then ghosted me). |
Mike Del Quadro could for you. |
Mike said he was busy and referred me to Landress. :/ _________________ BKA! Mic Gillette was my mentor and friend.
Marcinkiewicz Mic G. trumpet, Custom Marcinkiewicz mpc. (Among others)
Marcinkiewicz Rembrandt flugel, Benge 8Z cornet, King 2B, Bach 36, Benge 190, Getzen 3062... many more. All Marc. mouthpieces. |
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falado Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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How about Jim Becker at Osmun? _________________ FA LA DO (Ab: V/ii) MUCS, USN (Ret.)
Stomvi VR (Reeves) with VR II Bell
Bach 239 25A C, Blueprinted
Bach 37, Early Elkhart, Blueprinted
Kanstul Flugel
Getzen 4 valve Pic.
Yamaha D/Eb
Besson Cornet |
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Jon Arnold Heavyweight Member
Joined: 07 Jan 2002 Posts: 2025
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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dershem wrote: | Jon Arnold wrote: | dershem wrote: | I have a bunch of horns, but I keep a 6 in the stable for doing rock gigs because it can back off and be mellow when needed, but can scream if you can fill it up. I've used it in the past for 'legit' gigs by just backing off and letting the sound calm down and darken up. Also (when I was younger) played CC's that could part your hair. Very flexible horn if you can fill it up. Still trying to find someone who will do a tuning-bell conversion on it for me. (Landress said he could, but then ghosted me). |
Mike Del Quadro could for you. |
Mike said he was busy and referred me to Landress. :/ |
Sorry to hear that. Charlie Melk, Jim Becker are also more than capable to help. |
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