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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


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Listen to what he says at app. 2:00 . . . "Third, during the vibration cycle . . . ."

And before anybody says, "Well that's just for trombone players." Actually, all brass embouchures function the exact same way.

Somewhere, Lloyd Leno did the same thing with trumpet players but I don't know where to find those videos, but I remember watching them maybe 20 years ago. Maybe Walla Walla College has them archived?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And here are some more similar videos, including some on trumpet.


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There are others out there. The bottom line is that the lips do cycle between open and closed while playing. You could try to argue that the *sensation* of having "open" or "closed" lips might be beneficial, but the reality is that the aperture opens and closes. Personally, I believe it's better to understand what actually is happening first.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Touch what?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vin DiBona wrote:
Watch this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbU_9OsNcVI
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

#1. These videos are disturbing and I regret watching them on my school owned laptop. I hope they don't trigger some warning in the tech department!

2. These videos confirm what I tell my students. The lips need to lightly touch inside the mouthpiece - and not be pinned open by the inner rim - prior to playing.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As if any more confirmation is needed, the frequency of tones emitted fit the physics of a pipe closed at the mouthpiece, not that of a tube open at both ends.
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