Cornet forum !!

Mr. Stomvi · Heavyweight Member Joined: 01 Apr 2002 Posts: 1062

Hey Todd - Could we get you to set up a separate forum (under equipment) for cornets ? Maybe one for flugelhorns also ? Looks like we have plenty of cornet players here to support it.

Thanks in advance

Seth Moore
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Liad Bar-EL · Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2002 8:42 am Post subject:

Seems like Rich Willey is interested in cornets.

http://www.trumpetherald.com/forum/viewtopic.php?topic=5163&forum=15&7

Good luck,

tom turner · Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2002 6:10 pm Post subject:

Hi,

If the demand is there, and if people want it, I'll be glad to help out with it. They are glorious sounding instruments AND, unlike the nearly 100% of today's trumpets that are clones of the 100 year-old F. Besson design . . . cornets were never "standardized" with one "wrap" being better . . . so they are really uniquely "cool" to look at.

Tom

_PhilPicc · Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2002 6:22 pm Post subject:

I would certainly be interested in a cornet forum. Great horns and great sound. I own five.

Supportingly,
Phil
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BeboppinFool · Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2002 6:44 pm Post subject:

tom turner · Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2002 7:35 pm Post subject:

I don't know if a forum like this would need to have a private moderator. If it did, I'd be glad to help. The whole idea is up to Todd anyway. The forum sounds like a great idea to me!

Tom

Liad Bar-EL · Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2002 2:38 am Post subject:

I don't own a cornet; however, I have a lot of information on them and I am willing to learn more.

They're half trumpets aren't they?

Liad

SummerSong · Regular Member Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 79

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Liad Bar-EL · Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2002 7:25 am Post subject:

I think the effort here is to draw more people into TH so as to participate on a high level of expertise for the benefit of all who want to share, learn, etc.

If Todd wants this type of expertise for cornets as well as for trumpets then something has to be developed in this line to draw these experts here or they will go some place else such as to the forum you suggested SummerSong.

BTW, SummerSong, thanks for the reference. I will save it.

BeboppinFool · Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2002 6:30 pm Post subject:

rich · Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2002 7:02 pm Post subject:

You've got my interest.

Question... is the short cornet and the sheperd's crook the same horn??

jhatpro · Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2002 7:06 pm Post subject:

I'd sure be interested in a Cornet Corner! Maybe the first project should be to send emails to every eBay seller who doesn't know the difference between a cornet and a trumpet, as well as those who spell it "coronet."

Jim
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1998 Scodwell flugel
1986 Bach 181 cornet
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2002 Getzen bugle

Liad Bar-EL · Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2002 11:31 pm Post subject:

Coronet, that's good jhatpro.

How about this one? Coranets are tapered rounded trumpets.

KevinInGeorgia · Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2002 7:35 am Post subject:

NO Don't Send out an Email to ANY Ebayer that spells it coronet.. That’s how you get the good deals when they misspell something. (HA, ha)

You have my vote for a Cornet forum.. Every time I play mine. I love it more. & I'm learning all the little differences between the trumpet & the cornet. I notice I pick up my cornet more & more. Now just can’t wait to get a Pro model Cornet.
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tom turner · Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2002 8:48 am Post subject:

Yeah Kevin,

I LOVE IT that some sellers ain't got a clue. I got a Boston 3-Star cornet once that was labeled as an "old trumpet." Evidently the "regulars" who lurk weren't buyin' that week!

Lots of fine cornets also pop up under coronets . . . and they RARELY sell for what they are worth.

Gee, I wasn't gonna let the cat out of the bag . . . but since you did . . . now more people will be checking out the oops areas (including fluglehorn and flugelhorn!!!

Tom

Scootsky · Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2002 9:15 am Post subject:

Yes! A Cornet page. I started to play in the 7th grade ('bout 1956) band and had to have a 'trumpet'. Only winnies played them 'coronets'. Last summer I become a 'comeback player' after a 40 years layoff. At the time I had a Harbor Freight bugle ($19.95). Now, three months later it's 3 cornets, 2 trumpets and 13 MPs. I got a '64 version Old Ambassador cornet and it is the sweetest playing of my collection. You might ask how I would know what was sweet after 40 years. It's just a freer blowing and fun’er horn. I use the Olds 3 MP that came with it. And now I think I may settle on the Cornet as my main horn. So bring on the Cornet forum.............
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Jim_K · Regular Member Joined: 05 Nov 2002 Posts: 78

I am very happy to see this conversation has been initiated. The cornet is a great solo and sectional instrument. The tone is "richer" than the trumpet, but with much more presance than a flugel horn. The solo literature is very great- there are more cornet swolos historivcaly than for moder vavle trumpet. Only social statis of being accepted for modern otrchestra has led to the eclipse of this wonderful instrument. Many bands until recently used separqte cornet and trumpet parts for the timbre. Unfortunatly, manufacturers following Bach built bastardised trumpets which they called is cornet.

Cornet has a historic place in the orchestra- going backto its creation in the 1800's. Look at Berlioz, and later Stravinsky writing for the Ballet Russe.

There are very different national traditions of cornet playing and design. Todaqy in the US, we largely forget the American tradition, and base our opinions on the British Brass Bands. (Not to knock these wonderful ensembles.)
Jim Klages
University of Central Oklahoma

Former cornet soloist
"The President's Own" US Marine Band
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edtaylor · Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2002 2:09 pm Post subject:

I would like to know more about cornets. I have never played one, but some of the postings make me think I should have tried one before choosing a WT trumpet.

Jim, I attended a "President's Own" Band concert in Asheville, NC a few years ago and it was a real treat!
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Mr. Stomvi · Heavyweight Member Joined: 01 Apr 2002 Posts: 1062

Jim - Did you by any chance know a Nancy Taylor when you were in the "Presidents Own" ? She teaches here in Dayton, OH.

Seth Moore
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Billy Wilder

tom turner · Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2002 6:04 pm Post subject:

Jim_K,

Welcome aboard! It's great to have you post here and I look forward to reading what you say in the future!

Sincerely,

Tom Turner
former-Army Bandsman

PS: Sadly, the military FORCED me to switch to trumpet while studying in Norfolk and only trumpets were issued in our army band (both Bach 37 models and Getzen herald trumpets). It took me 28 years before I picked up another cornet and fell in love with it's warm, delicate, expressive sound.