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The Gentle Rain (in 7/8 and 5/4, simultaneously)



 
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victorhaskins
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 9:11 am    Post subject: The Gentle Rain (in 7/8 and 5/4, simultaneously) Reply with quote

The story:

I was shedding Luis Bonfa's "The Gentle Rain" on piano, and then for an added challenge as I got comfortable in different keys, I decided to work on it in 7 (12+12+123). Then I wanted to add horn, so I recorded the piano part (supportively), and added horn, all the while organizing my thinking in 7/8 time. After listening to it, I realized that the collective performance sounds like 7/8 if you hear it as "straight", and 5/4 (big 5) if you hear it as "swung". It's a musical/aural illusion! I hope y'all enjoy it:


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Intriguing idea. I couldn't hear the piano well enough to hear the superimposition of the rhythms well. Also, because the piano was under recorded, for me, I couldn't hear well how your pitch choices related to the underlying harmonies. One of the things I love about his music is his use of the melody notes within the context of the harmony. I didn't hear that here. (I'm not saying they weren't there, I just didn't hear.)

FYI, I'm familiar and comfortable with different rhythms being superimposed on one another, so my observations are not a negative reaction to them, per se.

Also, and I realize the background is pre-recorded but, particularly in this setting, I would have really enjoyed hearing an interplay of all participants.

I would love to hear another recording with a live group if you do one in the future. This is the kind of creative ides I love to listen to.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good stuff! Thanks for sharing it (and explaining it)!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kehaulani wrote:
Intriguing idea. I couldn't hear the piano well enough to hear the superimposition of the rhythms well. Also, because the piano was under recorded, for me, I couldn't hear well how your pitch choices related to the underlying harmonies. One of the things I love about his music is his use of the melody notes within the context of the harmony. I didn't hear that here. (I'm not saying they weren't there, I just didn't hear.)

FYI, I'm familiar and comfortable with different rhythms being superimposed on one another, so my observations are not a negative reaction to them, per se.

Also, and I realize the background is pre-recorded but, particularly in this setting, I would have really enjoyed hearing an interplay of all participants.

I would love to hear another recording with a live group if you do one in the future. This is the kind of creative ides I love to listen to.


I feel you--yeah, this was just done on my cell phone, so the horn overpowered the piano. I'll try to record it all through my DAW so I can mix it properly. Will def post again if I put something else together (live or solo) with some odd meters!

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And thank you, Dayton! Happy to share and explain.
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