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ejweiss
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 Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:33 pm Post subject: CAROL BRASS CTR-6280H-GSS-Bb-L |
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HaveTrumpetWillTravel
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| I have a Mauriat 600 that is very similar: twin leadpipe (yellow inner, nickel outer), large-ish rings, gold brass bell. It has a slightly heavier/sturdier feel. I think it would make a fine instrument and the 6280 looks fairly normal. I bought one CB scratch lacquered trumpet used and did not love it--I would probably stick with silver or regular lacquer. I sometimes see the 6280 selling very reasonably used and would definitely consider it if I didn't having something similar. |
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gregplo
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I had a lacquer CTR-628 (prior to the model name updates) several years ago. It was a very nice horn...full sound that tended toward the bright end of the spectrum. It played a little tight for me...but I prefer free blowing horns. As I remember it, it is not a lightweight horn...heavier than a Bach 37.
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ejweiss
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| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 11:30 am Post subject: |
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| gregplo wrote: | | I had a lacquer CTR-628 (prior to the model name updates) several years ago. It was a very nice horn...full sound that tended toward the bright end of the spectrum. It played a little tight for me...but I prefer free blowing horns. As I remember it, it is not a lightweight horn...heavier than a Bach 37. |
How would you describe the blow and sound of the new CB Andrea model? |
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gregplo
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| Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 8:46 am Post subject: |
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| ejweiss wrote: | | gregplo wrote: | | I had a lacquer CTR-628 (prior to the model name updates) several years ago. It was a very nice horn...full sound that tended toward the bright end of the spectrum. It played a little tight for me...but I prefer free blowing horns. As I remember it, it is not a lightweight horn...heavier than a Bach 37. |
How would you describe the blow and sound of the new CB Andrea model? |
For me personally, the CarolBrass Andrea Giuffredi (AG) is a terrific horn. It is relatively lightweight, has a large bell and a 72 bell flair. The blow of the AG horn is relatively open...I do not find it tight at all. The fast taper leadpipe and reverse tuning slide help with that. The Rounded slide is more open than the D slide, and is my preference. It also has Heavy and standard weight valve caps and buttons to help you "tune" the sound more to your liking. I have the lacquer model...the cupro-nickel valve casings are beautiful.
I've seen where some folks say the AG sounds "tinny" or "thin," but those appear to have been from a "behind the bell" players perspective. I also find that the sound from behind the horn is of a bright nature, but that makes the feedback the best of any horn I've ever played...I can actually hear myself even in a Big Band setting. Out front, the sound does lean toward the brighter part of the spectrum, but it still has a good core to the sound, and fits my concept of the trumpet sound. If you're looking for a "dark" sounding horn, this is not the one for you. I got to play Londonderry Air at a funeral last weekend for the family of an old friend who had passed away. It was her favorite tune on the trumpet. I stood about 30-40 yards away from the graveside, and my wife said it sounded great from where they were sitting...so projection doesn't seem to be an issue.
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| gregplo wrote: | | ejweiss wrote: | | gregplo wrote: | | I had a lacquer CTR-628 (prior to the model name updates) several years ago. It was a very nice horn...full sound that tended toward the bright end of the spectrum. It played a little tight for me...but I prefer free blowing horns. As I remember it, it is not a lightweight horn...heavier than a Bach 37. |
How would you describe the blow and sound of the new CB Andrea model? |
For me personally, the CarolBrass Andrea Giuffredi (AG) is a terrific horn. It is relatively lightweight, has a large bell and a 72 bell flair. The blow of the AG horn is relatively open...I do not find it tight at all. The fast taper leadpipe and reverse tuning slide help with that. The Rounded slide is more open than the D slide, and is my preference. It also has Heavy and standard weight valve caps and buttons to help you "tune" the sound more to your liking. I have the lacquer model...the cupro-nickel valve casings are beautiful.
I've seen where some folks say the AG sounds "tinny" or "thin," but those appear to have been from a "behind the bell" players perspective. I also find that the sound from behind the horn is of a bright nature, but that makes the feedback the best of any horn I've ever played...I can actually hear myself even in a Big Band setting. Out front, the sound does lean toward the brighter part of the spectrum, but it still has a good core to the sound, and fits my concept of the trumpet sound. If you're looking for a "dark" sounding horn, this is not the one for you. I got to play Londonderry Air at a funeral last weekend for the family of an old friend who had passed away. It was her favorite tune on the trumpet. I stood about 30-40 yards away from the graveside, and my wife said it sounded great from where they were sitting...so projection doesn't seem to be an issue. |
Agree. I'm really enjoying mine, too. Mine has regular and "heavier looking" caps, but really they are just a modern looking cap with the same or possibly slightly heavier weight. There's a difference in playability, but not much.
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I'm late to the thread, but the Carol Brass 6280H is my every day horn. I love it. It is on the heavier side, but I like that. To me, it has a nice core to the tone. A little on the dark end, but can brighten up easily in the upper register when needed. I like how it fits my hands. The valves have always been fantastic, completely trouble free. I bought mine used from Trent Austin probably 10 years ago now. The lacquer flaked off and I had it completely stripped raw. I love the look of the nickel silver contrasting with yellow and gold brass. It's a really great horn and I think I paid about $800 for it used. Carol brass are really great value, in my opinion.
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