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Trumpeting_Whale
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2022 5:42 pm    Post subject: Playing Softly and Air Support Reply with quote

Two things I'd like to improve while practicing as pp as I can.

When I "breath" start (not tonguing in the note) I can get the note but then it quickly turns into air before the note returns.

And conversely, when I articulate starting the note I think I am playing softly but can always reduce my loudness after having the note.

Is this indicative of me need to and building up my embouchure?
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kalijah
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is this indicative of me need to and building up my embouchure?


Embouchure skill and fine control is what you need to develop. Doing excessive "strength" work could make the problem worse. You must spend much more time with practice in the low and soft range. Contact me and I can give you some ideas on how to do that.

Regarding air "support", I assume you are referring to the exhalation effort you are using for particular notes. Air pressure controls the dynamics. Soft notes require less air pressure than loud notes. Efficient playing requires less air pressure and flow.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kalijah wrote:

Embouchure skill and fine control is what you need to develop. ...

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Part of the 'skill' is to maintain the embouchure / lip / breath setting ('follow-through') after initially sounding the note. Have the goal of 'playing the entire note', not just 'hitting it'.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Part of the 'skill' is to maintain the embouchure / lip / breath setting ('follow-through') after initially sounding the note. Have the goal of 'playing the entire note', not just 'hitting it'.


The air pressure and duration depends on loud or soft, short or long, dynamics, etc.

The embouchure's tone production skill is required for any and all of those.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try playing Long Tones at a comfortable MF, then gradually decrescendo, keeping the air continuously flowing with a continuous sound..
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks all! Will implement and ask for help or questions as I go. Another odd thing I have found while playing softly. After my long tones at pp I find that I exhale when pulling out the trumpet. What am I doing wrong here?!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trumpeting_Whale wrote:
... After my long tones at pp I find that I exhale when pulling out the trumpet. What am I doing wrong here?!

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What I experience is the relaxation of my chest and lungs, due to stopping the air support needed while playing. That relaxation and re-alignment of lungs and torso might 'move some air' and feel sort of like a slight exhale.

A factor might be the technique you use on inhale - torso expansion, chest expansion, shoulders, etc.
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